Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

A lot of very favorable polling:

MC also finds Josh Stein leading 50% to 37% in NC's gov race. (This is the FOURTH poll today where he's up double-digits.)

And they have Senate numbers, below: what you've come to expect, but I'll flag 2 under-polled races of MD (Dem +5) & OH (Dem +3)https://t.co/N1zHPjfDAT

— Taniel (@Taniel) September 9, 2024

 

Second poll giving Alsobrooks a lead outside of the MOE. That is good news. I have to say she is not running a very good campaign though.

@soccernutter, looking at the NV and AZ senate numbers, as well as the NC gov numbers. there is a more than even chance, Harris will get some reverse coattail in this states.

 

Damn it, why no Montana?
We really need a decent pollster to poll the senate race in Montana.

 

Today's outrage du jour from the Trump-Vance ticket is some odd, but incredibly racist, diatribes on Haitian immigrants eating pets (which isn't true - appears he deleted the post). Turns out, Vance has been fanning these anti-Haitian immigrant flames for a little while in Springfield, Ohio after tens of thousands of those folks came to the city and revitalized a lot of their industry. However, one Haitian immigrant hit a bus and killed a kid, so this meant every Haitian did it and Vance took up the mantle.

So, I mean, the posts today about Haitians were over the top racist from the right, outright saying they should be banned, Chinese Exclusion Act style. When is it, then, we are allowed to call this racist?

 

Isn't Trump the same guy who refuses to hire Americans at Mar-a-Lago, instead choosing to bring in people from Haiti year after year, to work for next to nothing? Correct me if I am wrong.

 

Careful, with that kind of talk, you will just force them to vote Trump.

 

And to be clear, the Haitians came there legally.

Also, according to a Bulwark clip, "Haitians eating cats" is an old trope that has been resurrected.

 

Sometimes they can’t get a random enough sample to run a proper statistical model with any confidence. I’m sure it’s on the list, but taking more time?

 

Yes, that is not the case now. But the reports were, back in 2018, that MAL hired more workers from Haiti than they did of any other nationality using the H-2B visas. This came out after the "shithole countries" comment. Haiti, soon thereafter, was removed by the Trump WH from the list of countries eligible for those types of visas, if I recall correctly -- at least temporarily.

 

One of Trump’s superpowers is how often nobody takes him seriously. Rightly or wrongly, nobody takes that mass deportation threat seriously.

 

At some level, doesn't that mean that a decent percentage of Americans just don't take the presidency or the role of government, more generally, seriously? Obviously, none of this really makes any sense. You can't honestly just assume Trump can't or won't lock up all of his enemies or deport 10M people overnight, while at the same time think that Democrats - who've controlled the White House all but four years since January 2009 - will literally destroy the country if they're given another four years. Is Trump just jack-ass level entertainment for them? Is that all they really expect out of the president?

 

That's because Trump is incompetent. And since the primary skill his associates must have is licking his ass, they tend to be pretty incompetent as well.

 

In part, I think this fits. Lots of people think it’s The Politics Show. And obviously the media caters to those people above all. Hell, they ARE those people.

Another factor is the literally vs. seriously bit.

 

This is how Trump even exists at all on the political stage. He managed to turn it into a reality TV show. The so-called serious media has been, and still is, helping him do this.

 

I think Trump has already reached his high water mark with respect to Latinos. Food and gas prices are down, the frightening deportation plans are percolating through the Latino community, and in Nevada the culinary union has endorsed Harris. Latinos in South Texas may still give Trump an unusual level of support, but barring an abysmal performance by Harris in the debate tonight I think Trump’s numbers won’t get any better with Latino voters in the tossup states.

 

@soccernutter

It is likely that Josh Stein is going to closer the batshit crazy GOP candidate in NC....We should see some reverse coattails for Harris there...it has to happen.

A new SurveyUSA poll in North Carolina finds Josh Stein (D) with a commanding lead over Mark Robinson (R) in the state’s gubernatorial race, 51% to 37% with 11% undecided.

 

Stuart Stevens agrees....

Harris is turning in the best debate performance we’ve seen in modern politics.

— Stuart Stevens (@stuartpstevens) September 11, 2024

 

WOW...They know their guy is getting his clock cleaned....

What we know, Frank, is that this was an ambush. https://t.co/eWqXsguPI3

— Megyn Kelly (@megynkelly) September 11, 2024

 

The fuck is every one?

 

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