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Discussion in 'Elections' started by ceezmad, Nov 7, 2020.

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Who will be the 2 Candidates for the 2 big parties in 2024

  1. Joe Biden

    34 vote(s)
    54.0%
  2. Kamala Harris

    20 vote(s)
    31.7%
  3. Bernie Sanders

    2 vote(s)
    3.2%
  4. Ted Cruz

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  5. Donald Trump (from prison)

    27 vote(s)
    42.9%
  6. One of the Trump idiots

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
  7. A Never Trump Republican

    2 vote(s)
    3.2%
  8. The dude from Florida (not florida man)

    6 vote(s)
    9.5%
  9. A Trumpian Republican

    10 vote(s)
    15.9%
  10. Hail Grimes!

    10 vote(s)
    15.9%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    I’d feel much better with a +5 poll.
     
  2. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
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    JD is going places few people dare:

     
  3. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
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    Fascist Hellscape
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    i need to see Panzers crashing though the front gate of Trumps beach house
     
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  4. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
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    But which Christopher Guest film?

    Waiting for Trumpman?

    A Mighty Windbag?

    Worst in Show?

    This is Spinal Crap?
     
  5. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LMAO.....Clowns.
     
  6. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is an other great pice by Josh Marshall, in the same vein of the article I posted yesterday.

    Kamala, A Riddle Wrapped in a Mystery Inside an Enigma, Many People are Saying.

    "On the one hand, journalists press for information, details, answers. That’s what they do. It’s their job. It’s part of their job to be annoying. They press for things that people aren’t going to volunteer. But there is something uncanny and vaguely absurd hearing this mix of complaints, demands and warnings of electoral disaster leveled at a campaign which is finishing up what has to be at least among and quite possibly the best single month of any presidential campaign in at least half a century. Campaign success isn’t what journalists are or should be concerned about. But it defies belief that Harris and her campaign would shift gears when what they’ve been doing is working this well."

    " The final part of the story is rooted in official Washington’s view of Harris. To put it baldly most elite DC journalists treated Harris with a kind of breezy disdain that could scarcely rise to the level of contempt. For the first year of her vice presidency there were an on-going series of critical reports about turmoil in the Office of the Vice President, staff drama, mean bossism, general turmoil. I don’t know how much reality there was to those reports. But they set a dismal tone. You’ll remember that when Ezra Klein and others got together the calls for a Thunderdome convention Klein referred delicately and painedly to “the Kamala Harris problem,” a problem so obvious that it scarcely required explanation: how to usher her out of the way for others from the vaunted Democratic bench.

    I’m not trying to pick on Klein here. I’ve done enough of that. I note this simply because it was such a deep conventional wisdom that it hardly required explanation. Everyone in that world knew what he meant. That certainly figures into this, and in both directions. It is not only that there is this great appetite to find out just what it is Harris must be doing wrong. That backstory must have left Harris just utterly uninterested in what these folks have to say. They treated her as something between a punchline and a nonentity and now she’s the odds-on favorite, if only by a small margin, to the next President. Why should she care?"

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblo...stery-inside-an-enigma-many-people-are-saying
     
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  7. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    4 Seasons Total Landscaping vibes.
     
  8. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Depending on who you believe, Biden's people did nothing to discourage this line of thinking.

    According to some reporting, Harris also intentionally kept a low profile after the Border stuff, and then was much happier doing her grass roots engagement work. There was a journo who spent a lot of time with her recently who did a few media hits after the debate - the whole back story of her fall and rise is fascinating.

    I remember that journo also did a 30 min piece on Hysteria podcast maybe a year ago

    ETA - this is the journo

    https://www.theatlantic.com/author/elaina-plott/
     
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  9. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

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    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
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    Chelsea FC
    Dude's going to places where conservative vote is shored up in Michigan and getting turnout like that. If you're going to Shelby, which is heavy Trump (And I say this whenever I go there to bike), and you get low turnout, you might be screwed.

    On a related note, there used to be a house on my route to Shelby that had large ******** Joe Biden flag. I was just in the area recently and haven't seen it since he announced he wasn't running.
     
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  10. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    Great article, but I would add that Biden's speech problems make it difficult to speak directly to the people, and so he was sort of forced to rely on the press to tout his accomplishments (which they didn't feel like doing).
     
  11. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    Vanuatu
    These are the results of campaign staffers who are hired and kept based on how well they profess loyalty to Trump rather than any competance.
     
  12. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Panzers?

    No f***ing way.
     
  13. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
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    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I always believed the Harris "fall" or "ineffectiveness" was grossly exaggerated. Same as the rumors of rift between Biden and Harris teams.
    As Josh said, for the "elites" DC journos, she was an afterthought, treated with disdain. No surprise that the Ezra Klein or Cohn were advocating for an open convention.
     
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  14. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
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    What is interesting about that poll is that Real Clear Politics clearly knows about that poll result, because they include it in their Trump-Harris-Kennedy poll results, but they don’t include it in their Trump-Harris results.

    The reason? Probably because their electoral college map is linked only to the Trump-Harris results. If PA flips to Harris, it flips RCP’s entire electoral college map to Harris. That would be bad for clicks from right wing viewers, which is their bread and butter.

    Pretty shameless.
     
  15. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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    More evidence for the Manufacture of Consent thesis.
     
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  16. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    The guy whose house I walk by on my longer sunday walks has lost his ******** Joe Biden flag. He still has his "Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Trump" flag.

    And, in true patriot fashion, he flies it on his flag pole ABOVE the stars and stripes. At least he only has one Trump flag over the US flag now, and not two.
     
  17. Hayaka

    Hayaka Member+

    Jun 21, 2009
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    Just to follow up on this I don’t know why the media (even the left wing media) quotes RCP results. They are obviously not honest brokers.

    Their methodology also sucks. They take garbage polls and the quality polls and just average them as though they are equal. So lazy and misleading.
     
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  18. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
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    Oh well. The “cavalry” are s coming…..I guess.


     
  19. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
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    #4344 ceezmad, Aug 15, 2024
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2024
    Hopefully this is one of those things that politicians say to get the dumb people vote, similar to Trump saying he will cut electric bills in half.





    This dude knows what is up

     
  20. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
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    United States
    Can Rudy be far behind? He's gettin' the old gang back together.
     
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  21. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
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    Sounds like the 7th Calvary.
     
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  22. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Jul 23, 2004
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    The return of all the amateurs is perfect. Wiles and LaCavita are dangerous
     
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  23. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Just need the deathstar guy back to steal all the money

    [​IMG]
     
  24. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    He’s never really gone away, but his grift is in selling his campaign apparatus as AI.
     
  25. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    The Pickett’s charge!
     

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