Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

Discussion in 'Elections' started by ceezmad, Nov 7, 2020.

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Who will be the 2 Candidates for the 2 big parties in 2024

  1. Joe Biden

    34 vote(s)
    54.0%
  2. Kamala Harris

    20 vote(s)
    31.7%
  3. Bernie Sanders

    2 vote(s)
    3.2%
  4. Ted Cruz

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  5. Donald Trump (from prison)

    27 vote(s)
    42.9%
  6. One of the Trump idiots

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
  7. A Never Trump Republican

    2 vote(s)
    3.2%
  8. The dude from Florida (not florida man)

    6 vote(s)
    9.5%
  9. A Trumpian Republican

    10 vote(s)
    15.9%
  10. Hail Grimes!

    10 vote(s)
    15.9%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  2. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

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    birthplace of MLS
    I'm hesitant to get too excited about polls, I'm still traumatized by dumbass Comey and his election eve announcement, and we all know this is going to be a bonkers rollercoaster ride to the finish...but damn, what a difference a few weeks makes...

    The Fight To Redefine the 2024 Race for President | Cook Political Report

    Swing State Project: August 14, 2024 Toplines | Cook Political Report

    Swing states showing promise...

    Harris leads Trump in 5 battleground states, tied in Georgia: Poll (usatoday.com)

    "The findings suggest multiple paths to the 270 electoral votes needed to win the election have opened for Harris, the vice president and Democratic nominee, after Biden's struggles in the Sun Belt states of Arizona, Nevada, Georgia and North Carolina forced his campaign to increasingly bank on the so-called "blue wall" states: Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin."
     
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  3. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Frank Luntz is freaking out....

    ”“She’s got intensity now. She’s got an intensity advantage. She’s got a demographic advantage and I haven’t seen anything like this happen in 30 days in my lifetime,” he said. “Now my groups are broken up by young women saying, ‘I’m not voting for him anymore.’”

    He added: “The people who are undecided have all collapsed towards Harris. The people who are ‘weak’ Trump have all collapsed towards undecided.”

    Luntz told hosts of “Squawk Box” that he’s attempting to hold a focus group of undecided, younger female voters, but is having trouble finding enough people who fit that category.”
     
  4. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  5. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    this campaign is going to rewrite a few priors
     
  6. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #4306 charlie15, Aug 14, 2024
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2024
    Nate Cohn should stick to what he is good at, reporting and analyzing polls numbers...

     
  7. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    He was listening to yesterday's NYT "The Daily" podcast, where he was the featured guest.

    That was not what he's good at.
     
  8. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Worth reading.


    Kamala Harris is taking power back from the press corps
    She learned from Biden’s fatal error.

    "It didn’t matter what Joe Biden did – pull the country out of a pandemic, dodge a recession, tame inflation, grow jobs, grow wages, enforce anti-monopoly laws, revive every single one of the so-called “left behind” counties that voted for Trump in 2016 because of “economic anxiety” – it didn’t matter what Joe Biden did. The press corps decided nothing was more important than his age, and lo! 2024 became an election about vibes and vibes ended his candidacy."


    https://www.editorialboard.com/kamala-harris-is-taking-power-back-from-the-press-corps/
     
  9. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    I'd comment but there is nothing I could add that wasn't covered better in that article than I could put it.
     
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  10. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    United States
    Spot on!
     
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  11. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    I caught half of that driving home. What utter dreck!
     
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  12. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    We eat a little after six. Until recently, Fresh Air ran on our NPR affiliate from 6-7. Recently, they moved that to 7, and replaced it with two shows. Marketplace is at 6. That's actually pretty good (though the Mrs. and I are getting tired of their interviews with small business owners who are all about self-growth and actualization. Then they follow that with The Daily.

    Fresh Air can be irritating, but nowhere near as bad as the typical Daily.
     
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  13. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Hmmmmmmmm!

    Agreed.

    However, Sabrina Tevernisi is pretty good on The Daily, especially early in the War of Russian Aggression 2023.
     
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  14. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The generic ballot also features a generic Republican, which Trump very much is not.

    Harris is an above-replacement Democrat, probably, and Trump is a well-below-replacement Republican.
     
  15. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    A generic Republican that isn't Trump is Ron DeSantis and JD Vance, and if that's their standard, well they aren't going to win much nationally.
     
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  16. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Every single time I see a "Kamala Edges Trump" headline I have to hold the vomit in my gut from soaring up my throat.
     
  17. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
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    Colombia
    Just let Vlad Futon do the talking:

     
  18. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am sure our media have learned their lesson and will not give him a free ride again and full live hour on. Tv.

    Narrator: Oh yes they will.



    Donald Trump announced Wednesday morning that he would host a press conference this week — his second in seven days, after a previous one said little of substance,” The Independent reports”.
     
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  19. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Will the Times continue to grovel at his feet? Sure will!

    For decades, Trump has operated with an instinctive political style that he honed in the tribal and combative world of New York City politics, one that has taken him from Queens to Manhattan to the White House (and out of it).


    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/14/us/politics/trump-harris-campaign.html

    Was Trump the mayor of New York or something in the 80s and I just missed it? ********'s sake.
     
  20. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    More kind words from JV Convertibles:

     
  21. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Something that is super interesting for those interesting in digital, movements, trends etc is the emergence of what is loosely being called "vibes" in all of this.

    For instance, we've been puzzling for a year over why Biden's polling did not match fundamentals post dobbs. There were lots of theories about this. Maybe it was inflation, rents, interest rates, disinfo yada yada. It was especially puzzling because Trump is outwardly a weak candidate and it should be easy to vote for Biden over Trump.

    Under the hood though, Biden was still doing as well as ever with older white people, and especially college educated. But with people aged under 29 he was struggling and way behind his '20 vote share.

    In his recent show Greg Sargent developed an idea he'd been discussing with Dem operatives that the Biden campaign struggled structurally to reach that demo, because they are not reading WAPO and there was no spark around the campaign for digital/social.

    In contrast, Kamala has a huge organic groundswell of Gen Z enthusiasm.

    So instead of all the complicated theories about Trumpism appealing to disaffected men - it could simply be there was a huge enthusiasm gap.
     
  22. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    It seems like the "double hater' demo has disappeared overnight.
     
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  23. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
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  24. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
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    Ghana
    Hear, hear! F@$k those guys and gals!!
     
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  25. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
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