Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

Well for example with "her emails" it isn't Haberman who decided to have 169 stories about it - those decisions about balance, focus, framing etc are made at the editorial level. A beat reporter does not decide what is on the dotcom homepage

Where i tend to agree is Charlie's point that the Gossip Girl Goebbels* era of coverage did end up normalising something quite horrific. I am not sure that was the intention of the reporters involved, but Haberman did promote a lot of Javanka palace style intrigue as entertainment.

* Hope Hicks - one of the primary sources

I am the last to defend the Times. The editorial decisions of late are insane. But i do think as liberals, we have a duty not to trash all the good reporting that is still happening on a daily basis - including the Maggie/Swan piece.

If both left and right attack the media - what is left?

 

Right - but that is an existential issue that needs to be confronted by management and people who run news rooms not beat reporters

See for instance the way Zaslav as CEO, decided to 're-centre' CNNs newsroom to be more attractive to conservative viewers. That is a decision taken at a much higher level than reporters. The reporters don't get to decide to do something that goes against Zaslav and the editorial line

 

Wow - did old boy have his teeth out or something?

Meiselas: This is some of the worst slurring I’ve ever heard. Trump appeared to be in steep cognitive decline when speaking to Elon. pic.twitter.com/7neiPoQV16

— Acyn (@Acyn) August 13, 2024

 

i forgot about that grifter lol

 

Here is another proxy that can be used. KH had made up huge ground on popular statewide Dem candidates.

a very good sign

#NEW @BullfinchGroup/@Independent_Cen Senate Poll:

WISCONSIN
Tammy Baldwin (D-Inc) 50% (+9)
Eric Hovde (R) 41%
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MICHIGAN
Elissa Slotkin (D) 48% (+10)
Mike Rogers (R) 38%
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PENNSYLVANIA
Bob Casey (D-Inc) 51% (+12)
David McCormick (R) 39%

1,500 RV, 8/8-11 https://t.co/NOJToYVTFT

— Political Polls (@Politics_Polls) August 12, 2024

 

i really hope he sacks Lacavita and Wiles and brings some of the clowns back

 

Mooch is on team D these days lol

 

That was my point. Reporters and news organizations can be good. And they can be bad. And they can be both at the same/competing times (mostly because they have a very broad and wide ranging remit).

 

Never say never.
One thing about Florida is it will one of two states (along with Louisiana) which gets hit the hardest by climate change/rising sea levels. That will turn a lot of voters towards the party that helps with those issues, which at this time is the Dems. Sure, the Dem party is really bad in Florida, but it is not a place like most of the Bible Belt where it is near impossible.

Trump is having issues in swing states, and Vance is following Harris around. Why not do a stop or two or three in Florida. If not to freak out the Trump campaign, but also for the longer play of showing that Florida is not being ignored.
Agreed about NC.

And thinking about this, it almost seems like all Harris is doing is campaigning. It's almost as if Biden has said, "Kamala, I'm taking everything unnecessary off your plate so you can win that damn election."

 

It still really annoys me that the US Intelligence knows stuff about Trump/Russia which is not public.

Trump has now on multiple occasions stated that he spoke with Vladimir Putin about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

The question journalists MUST ask — WHEN were such Trump-Putin conversations?

If *after* leaving the White House, then they were likely ILLEGAL under the Logan Act.

— Tristan Snell (@TristanSnell) August 13, 2024

 

More good news

D+3 is a huge turnaround

Today's update. Harris is *still* gaining on Trump on our national polling average, now 3.1 points.https://t.co/vsGVG18HHI pic.twitter.com/rK9UtQr9fO

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) August 13, 2024