Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

Holy smoke....this ************************ is even more vile than I thought....Irony is truly dead.



Sen. J.D. Vance was interviewed on CNN by Dana Bash:

BASH: Do you believe Kamala Harris is Black?

VANCE: I believe Kamala Harris is whatever she says she is, but I believe, importantly, that President Trump is right that she’s a chameleon.

 

Bash was - as per usual - pathetic in that interview. let him spout his nonsense with barely any pushback.

example: she asked about the catladies comment and allowed him to get away with "it was a quip" -- but she didn't follow it with "But your policy is that people with no kids get less of a vote, isn't it?"

and this was after he repeated his crap about Walz's service record with "It was either he mis-spoke or a lie" and she let that slide too!

christ she's useless.

 

There is no argument on this....Biden recognized this himself.

 

Example # 3456 of MSM failing us....

 

Probably but we have convinced the stat nerds that their opinion matters so now that he didn't get his wish of a primary, he is gonna dismiss her.

 

This whole "generic" thing is so ********ing stupid....We have seen this canard over and over and it needs to be retired from serious discussion now. People do not vote on "generic" candidates.

 

Seriously mate, you can't be that obtuse. I can post articles and comments from the very same Nate Cohn where he is doing exactly that. FFS, he was advocating an "open convention" since she was "polling worse" than Biden and was obviously a bad candidate, according to the newly minted pundit, Nate Cohn. According to Nate, it was a mistake by Biden to endorse her.

Why anyone would listen to anything he says is still a mystery to me. Both Nates are not serious people. Their rapid fall from decent data-based journalists to mediocre, bitter and asinine male pundits has been truly remarkable.

 

I didn't. And the poll, data, and media people don't get just how weird the Republican Party has become. And how much that, along with Dobbs is an anchor around them. And with Trump choosing JD Vance, well I doubt people are going to vote for him with bells on. Reluctantly voting for Biden? I get that. Lot of people may have been concerned about Biden's age, but they would've voted for him.

The other thing people miss, is that Trump wasn't doing well in the primaries. That Nikki Haley was still getting a good chunk of votes even when she quit should be telling. For all the people going on about uncommitted harming Biden (Which didn't do a thing), it was sound and fury signifying nothing.

Anyway, most of it, barring the weird and Dobbs, doesn't matter anymore. Biden stepped out, things are looking optimistic. I don't care what data people say because well, they tend to be a tad fanatical about it (And you know what Le Carre says about fanatics). And if the 2012 American League MVP debate taught me anything, data people tend to value data over everything else, including common sense.

 

Same. Getting the entire Democratic Party in line in 2 days was a really impressive start to what has been an impressive campaign effort.

 

Seeing Democrats in array is a bit jarring to those of us who have been Dems for a long time.

 

I've come to believe that many people's primary motivation, from NYT staff to BS posters, is to prove how smart and prescient they are.

 

Despite the calls for an "open convention" from the Ezra Klein, Nate Cohn and even some rather brainless democrats, Biden did the right thing by endorsing Harris right away. That had a lot to do with getting the Party in line and the unity around her.

 

carolinaforward.org/…

A new poll in North Carolina shows Vice President Harris tied at 46% with Donald Trump and shows Democrat Josh Stein leading Mark Robinson 46% to 36% in the race for governor of the Tarheel State.


The survey has 2% of voters supporting Robert Kennedy, Jr., and the rest undecided or favoring other candidates.

 

You mean like other people in this thread, self included?

You can get your point across without being a dick about it. Wanting a more open process was a valid opinion - even Obama felt that way too, and I don't think any Democrat would consider him brainless. It has worked out for Harris and the Democrats, but that outcome was in no way clear when Biden dropped out.