Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

Discussion in 'Elections' started by ceezmad, Nov 7, 2020.

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Who will be the 2 Candidates for the 2 big parties in 2024

  1. Joe Biden

    34 vote(s)
    54.0%
  2. Kamala Harris

    20 vote(s)
    31.7%
  3. Bernie Sanders

    2 vote(s)
    3.2%
  4. Ted Cruz

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  5. Donald Trump (from prison)

    27 vote(s)
    42.9%
  6. One of the Trump idiots

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
  7. A Never Trump Republican

    2 vote(s)
    3.2%
  8. The dude from Florida (not florida man)

    6 vote(s)
    9.5%
  9. A Trumpian Republican

    10 vote(s)
    15.9%
  10. Hail Grimes!

    10 vote(s)
    15.9%
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  1. charlie15

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    #4051 charlie15, Aug 10, 2024
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    Come on dude, when you wrote is patently false. We have a thread dedicated to media bias showing exactly that. What data of over a year are you talking about?
    So the American public decided that Joe was too old and by extension , the other guy was sane and not corrupt and would support him? Sometimes you don’t make sense mate.
     
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  2. charlie15

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    #4052 charlie15, Aug 10, 2024
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    Latest NYT/ Siena poll

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  3. The Jitty Slitter

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    i’ve posted the evidence many times.

    Biden trailed Trump for many months including when Trump was convicted.

    For a year or more polling had shown a majority of americans thought Joe was too old.

    the idea the media created that after the debate is nonsense.
     
  4. The Jitty Slitter

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    so do posters finally believe Biden was on track to wipe out including a popular vote victory for Trump?

    these are the poll numbers Biden ought to have shown if he were up to it.

    Too many voters simply did not believe old boy was up to it and now they are coming home.
     
  5. Deadtigers

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    The media's coverage and horrible bias was what the issue was. If Joe was too old and every gaffe proof of that, where are the 300 articles on Trumps age. Biden was trailing Trump by a point or two, within the margin of error in most polls, no one doubted but are gonna pretend 300 articles didn't happen? The lying ass Parkinsons article didn't happen?
     
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    I don't think it is an up to it thing. It is simply a repeat. That and media bias.
     
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  7. charlie15

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    #4057 charlie15, Aug 10, 2024
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    Dude, stop making wild generalizations. It is not true hat Trump was leading Biden for months or a year as you suggested.
    Second, the media didn’t create anything after the debate. They just followed the (gop inspired) playbook of literally questioning Biden mental capabilities at every step while the felon was getting way with garbage.
    We just had the vivid example two days ago with Trump press “conference “ 2 days ago. That was arguably exponentially worse than Biden debate, what did we hear and read from the MSM? The NYT beef with Biden is well documented. A so called liberal paper, they wrote over 300 articles slamming Biden for anything and everything while treating a criminal with gloves hands.
    I can’t believe you are wildly denying a reality that even some in the media are decrying. If you don’t think that didn’t have an impact on voted a, you may want to look at my bridge.
     
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  8. Minnman

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    Musk certainly has a cult following, and would be a contender. Thankfully, he’s not eligible to be president.

    There is no next cult leader. I’m sure some will try - as they already have - to replicate the Trump formula, but Trump is a unique character - a celebrity with decades of name recognition, wealthy, not to mention his narcissistic, bombastic personality traits that fit the bill - that none of the also-rans can come close to matching. The post-Trump GOP hangover is going to a bitch.
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

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    sure but the media did not create that belief because it was in polling over a year before the debate

    the debate is when the bottom fell out.

    remember Joe was already several points behind trump back at the time of his State of the Union which seemed to quell age concerns a bit. the whole point of the early debate was to show Joe was up to it. Instead it revealed he wasn’t up to it.
     
  10. The Jitty Slitter

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    it is true.

    biden managed to close within a point or so of Trump before the debate on the back of his conviction
     
  11. The Jitty Slitter

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    we’ve had 10 years of coverage about trumps failings including his criminal indictments and conviction.

    while I agree about the structural issues the media has covered all of it.

    of course one of the big problems is Trumps voters mostly don’t consume that media.
     
  12. Dr. Wankler

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    have the “strict constitutionalists” on the Supreme Court ruled that out? Surely, the authors of that document intended there to be exceptions permitting the rules to be rewritten for the hyper-wealthy.
     
  13. The Jitty Slitter

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    and it can only apply after congress enact a framework right?
     
  14. The Jitty Slitter

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    Nancy is on Kleins NYT podcast talking about how she bought Joe down. She knew he was busted and she was focussed on winning. So she took him out. Matriarch saves America perhaps?
     
  15. charlie15

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    As much as I respect her, she should tone it down. Nog helping by any means....
     
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  16. charlie15

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    Dude, again, you can't be pushing that canard. I can't recall a political / public figure who has received that level of soft if not ourtright positive coverage than the felon and this since 2016.
    The media has been almost apologetic reporting on his fallings. This is CNN headline after Trump "press conference".

    Trump attacks Harris and Walz during first news conference since Democratic ticket was announced

    I mean, seriously? This is truly pathetic. If you cant recognize that our media has been a total failure and has greatly contributed to diminish Biden while elevating Trump, I do not know what else to tell you.
     
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  17. The Jitty Slitter

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    plouffe is back for team K

     
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  18. charlie15

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    Very timely....



    Donald Trump’s campaign team sparked unintentional hilarity after blasting out the theme song from Titanic at a Montana rally Friday,” the Daily Mailreports.

    “Some political pundits on social media felt the song a metaphor for the Trump campaign’s flagging momentum, which comes just weeks after a victory in November felt all but assured.”
     
  19. Val1

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  20. Funkfoot

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    You can both be right, you know. The media have not been "fair" to Biden, and his physical decline has been there for anyone to see.
     
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  21. bigredfutbol

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    I’ll bet you’re insufferable at family game night.
     
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  22. The Jitty Slitter

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    exactly

    i’d really recommend listening to Nancy herself.
     
  23. The Jitty Slitter

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    ha! i refuse to play unless it’s chess or D&D
     
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  24. rslfanboy

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    Definition of insufferable.
     
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  25. charlie15

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    #4075 charlie15, Aug 10, 2024
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    And Nancy, with all due respect, should learn to STFU. From where she stands, she should know better than ranting about internal deliberations. A minimum of respect & discretion is warranted with regard to Biden as well. If I was cruel, I would say, she showing some mental decline there.
     
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