Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

well 100 days or so from election time we should start seeing the MAGAt acolytes activating plans to disrupt the election or invalidate votes.

Rules to reject or disqualify votes without burs
den of proof? sure, nothing fishy there
https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...a-takeover-georgia-election-board-1235073860/

On the other side Trumps “Pal” Musk is running a “help you register to vote” scam to farm data and or deceive potential voters… fun season is starting up
https://qz.com/elon-musk-donald-trump-super-pac-election-voter-fraud-1851612153

 

The dead bear prank sounds like something some rich asshole frat boy would do.

But 10years ago, RFK Jr was <checks notes> 60!

That’s just an asshole.

 

Teddy Bears for Bear killer?

maybe not the right merch for them to be selling? pic.twitter.com/TWglOAiDSr

— Jesse Ferguson (@JesseFFerguson) August 5, 2024

 

The more in-depth one goes on the Kennedys, the more one isn't surprised at this sort of thing. It's something that's on brand for the Kennedys. If it's not stupid things, it's them being awful. RFK Sr got his start with McCarthy union busting, Joe Sr and junior were rather fond of the Nazis (Some of the stuff Joe Jr said praising the Nazis, yikes) for instance. Then there's the stupid shit they do.

Josh Barro has a fantastic article (See below) about why he was never a big fan of the Kennedys. And while I don't agree with Barro on much, I do agree with his view of the Kennedys. One member of the family died playing ski football, which is exactly what it sounds like.

In short, ******** the Kennedys. Or to quote The Irishman, "I don't care that they're Catholic, I don't care that they're Irish. If there's one person you can't trust, it's millionaire's kids."

https://www.joshbarro.com/p/the-kennedys-were-always-bad

 

We should know within the next 24 hours or so who will be the VP pick. This is going to be very important.

Most media thinks it will be Shapiro but imo I think Walz would be a better pick.

Shapiro could help Kamala win PA but Walz would help her win both Wisconsin/Michigan and lock up Minnesota.

Kelly is solid but comes off boring and I don’t think he will help Kamala take AZ.

Shapiro has some baggage that’s the issue. Anti Muslim rhetoric will hurt Kamala taking Michigan if the Muslims decide to stay home.

WI/PA/MI/GA were such small margin wins for Biden that I am not sure that Kamala builds on that.

 

You are selling Walz short here. He is a very successful governor, he comes from a rural background and has military service in his resume. More importantly, he is very good on the stump ad in front of mikes and cameras. He can be a great asset in the Russ belt.
I have always been a Shapiro fan however, he may bring unnecessary distractions and baggage to the ticket.

 

I understand that you have to win in order to govern. But I’d like to think that actual governance is part of the equation when it comes to Harris picking a running mate. I understand that Shapiro is extremely popular in Pennsylvania and is a rising star in the party. I understand his reputation for getting things done (albeit, in a pretty short career as governor). What strikes me, though, is that discussion about his value as a running mate have tended to begin and end with PA’s key role in the electoral college. That’s legit, and may prove highly relevant to getting elected. But what does he bring to the ticket other than (maybe) PA? If he were governor of another state, would he be seen as serious a candidate?

 

I think this election is about to become about the economy. And if that is the case, then the incumbent party is in trouble. Am hoping I am wrong, though.

 

Conspiracy theorists want you believe that Kennedy was shot because he wanted the US out of Vietnam when he is a lot to blame that the US was involved in Vietnam.

 

Shapiro wrote something stupid when he was 20. The only people who think they've never done something similar are still 20.

Placed in a scale, saying something stupid as a 20 year old vs. getting a major interstate highway re-opened in a couple of weeks? The latter says something about his ability to get things done. The former says he used to be 20 years old.

Though he's not my first choice.

 

It's Palestine. They'd be doing this if it's Walz or anyone else. Plus, Palestine don't mean a thing to most Americans. And I'll reiterate, for all the hype uncommitted in Michigan got, it fizzled out the way a Barca product post Messi does.

 

I’ll check it out. She had a series of articles on the descent of The Claremont Institute into cuckoo-land (they’re the originators of the “Flight 93 Election” tactic). It might not have been as precipitous as Rod Dreher’s plunge, but it’s close.

 

The number of American politicians whose views on Israel are acceptable to 50% or more of self-described progressives can probably be counted on one hand.

 

Kamala Harris vice president choice narrows to Walz, Shapiro, sources say | Reuters

Walz or Shapiro it seems. No Sen. Astronaut

 

Trump wants to be Maduro:

Donald Trump: “Venezuela is right now being run by a dictator...If you look at Caracas, it was known for being a very dangerous city, and now it’s very safe... It’s safer than many of our cities.” pic.twitter.com/N9JmWrd8Pp

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) August 5, 2024