Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

Discussion in 'Elections' started by ceezmad, Nov 7, 2020.

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Who will be the 2 Candidates for the 2 big parties in 2024

  1. Joe Biden

    34 vote(s)
    61.8%
  2. Kamala Harris

    14 vote(s)
    25.5%
  3. Bernie Sanders

    1 vote(s)
    1.8%
  4. Ted Cruz

    1 vote(s)
    1.8%
  5. Donald Trump (from prison)

    22 vote(s)
    40.0%
  6. One of the Trump idiots

    4 vote(s)
    7.3%
  7. A Never Trump Republican

    2 vote(s)
    3.6%
  8. The dude from Florida (not florida man)

    6 vote(s)
    10.9%
  9. A Trumpian Republican

    10 vote(s)
    18.2%
  10. Hail Grimes!

    8 vote(s)
    14.5%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The NYT really seems to have a vendetta against Biden and his campaign. The later NYT / Sienna polls is being called out by experts questions its methodology and the subsequent NYT headlines.

    A very good article from Jay Kuo, dissecting the polls massive flaws.

    Do Better, New York Times
    The newest NYT/Siena “battleground poll” is full of biases and absurd results. Buckle up.
    https://statuskuo.substack.com/p/do-better-new-york-times?r=9fd0b&triedRedirect=true

    Morning Joe spent a long segment as well questioning it...

     
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  2. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    UofU not in the discussion?
     
  3. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any particular reason why not Boulder, and why those other two?
     
  4. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm assuming Boulder is popular enough that it doesn't need to attract out of state students with in-state tuition?
     
  5. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Woke and rigged are the GQP favorite words:



     
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  7. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    #2532 The Jitty Slitter, May 16, 2024
    Last edited: May 16, 2024
    So now we are in the dumbest timeline where Bibi is trying to do the very thing the entire international community and Joe Biden have told him clearly not to do

    So not only has Joe's strategy failed, as a reward, his key ally is working against him lol.

    What does Joe do now? I get this isn't the biggest election issue and being president is hard, but its not clear to me that he's been very smart

    Bibi's rant: Israel isn't a "vassal state" of the U.S.

    https://www.axios.com/2024/05/15/netanyahu-israel-rant-biden-gaza-war
     
  8. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bibi? No. He's not being very smart here. He's worked himself into a corner where he pretty much has to flatten the remainder of Gaza and, even then, Hamas and other militant groups are just going to keep getting more and more recruits from the residents of Gaza. Given that any solution to the "Palestinian problem" would involve Israel having to abandon the West Bank settlements, Bibi is basically forced to permanently occupy Gaza and face a growing militancy in the West Bank with less and less allies to do so...
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I tend to agree that is the real plan, as much as there is one.
     
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  10. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator
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    Aug 8, 2000
    San Carlos, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    (*) fewer
    (**) fewer

    At this rate, Netanyahu's going to lose the grammar nazis who are traditionally some of his strongest allies.
     
  11. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    As long as he doesn't lose the regular Nazis, Bibi will be fine.
     
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  12. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Can some other countries please actively interfere in US elections in favour of dems for once?
     
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  13. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Dems in the world like America, don't really commit to cheating to win. It's their great flaw. The inability to fight fire with fire.
     
  14. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not since Mayor Daley of Chicago died.
     
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  15. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Which one? Or do you mean both?
     
  16. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The first. The second was not as good.
     
  17. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Biden won tipping-point state Wisconsin by 0.63 percent. He probably would have won the popular vote without COVID, but I think Trump would have won the Electoral College without COVID.

    I check 538 on Fridays. Some new polls were good, and some were bad. Trump's net favorability fell from -11.7 to -12.6, which is his worst since November. Numbers cannot prove cause and effect, but maybe Trump's trial is hurting him. Biden's net approval improved from -18.0 to -16.9, so his deficit to Trump fell from 6.3 to 4.3. The generic ballot had Democrats improve to +1.0, which would likely take back the House. Decision Desk HQ/The Hill (hereafter "DD") has a poll from Iowa that 538 doesn't have, and it shows Trump only up 2, which lowered his DD lead to 3.1. A scary thing is that DD has Biden up only 0.6 in Minnesota, and that is a state that does not have polls with RFK. Considering all the Democrats who voted uncommitted in the primary, I think polls with Biden, Trump, RFK, Stein, West, and a Libertarian would show Trump leading. Minnesota is the only state that voted for Walter Mondale in 1984, so it has the longest streak of voting for Democrats. The last Republican to win Minnesota was Nixon in 1972, and the last Republican to win Minnesota without committing crime in the process was Eisenhower in 1956. DD also has Biden up only 1.8 in Virginia without polls having RFK. 538 does not have an average for Iowa, Minnesota, or Virginia. It will be very hard for Biden to win if he loses Minnesota and/or Virginia. DD and 538 agree about the tipping-point state being Pennsylvania, where DD has Trump up 2.5, and 538 has Trump up 1.8. Biden is doing so poorly in Nevada (down 6.9 in 538 and down 8.6 in DD) that it might be a good choice to give up there, and focus on holding everything except Arizona, Georgia, and Nevada to get 270. If Trump outperforms polls like he did in 2016 and 2020, he could have the best performance by a Republican since Bush in 1988.
     
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  18. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ROFL!!!
     
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  19. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Biden has erred on the side of deferring to Netanyahu in the interest of respecting longtime Israel-USA relations, but I don’t think he’s as trapped in the consequences of this miscalculation as you seem to fear.
     
  20. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Maybe he can vote from Florida?

     
  21. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When did that worm first enter his brain?
     
  22. IcEWoLF

    IcEWoLF Member+

    Juventus
    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. IcEWoLF

    IcEWoLF Member+

    Juventus
    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    More like a sac of salt.
     
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  25. superdave

    superdave BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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