Murky News is reporting that the Metros have inquired about Mr. Cannon. (link coming soon) since tim howard's move isn't official yet, this makes it look even more likely. story says moore wants either a player who can start now or multiple draft picks.
According to the latest MLS Confidential (I lost the link), 'Quakes are going to ask for Ricardo Clark in return....
with pope hurt, will they give up a defender? of course, pope is a short term injury and cannon could be a long term solution, so who knows?
      From the June 3, 2003 edition of MLS Confidential:       GO EARTHQUAKES!!! -G
I cant see the Metro's giving up Clark to get Cannon if Walker is also available. Clark looks like a very good young player, one that no Metro fan or really anyone around the league would accept them losing for Cannon as long as there is percieved to be another viable option. If walker goes elsewhere then maybe I see it as a possibility. That said, in negotiations generally you ask for the moon first in order to get them to set the expectation that they have to give up a lot in order to get what they want.
The Metros have loads of salary cap room, an allocation, a senior international slot open, and get to bargain in what is certainly a buyer's market. There is simply no way they would pay a heavy price for a replacement keeper. Asking for Rico Clark is just like telling the Metros that no price is high enough for their ex-player. The only person getting screwed by this "offer" is Joe Cannon.
Not a chance in hell the Quakes extract Clark from the Metros. Maybe they can get Ziadie to help out at right back. They could also ask for Magee, though there's similarly about a zero chance they'd get Magee (a forward) as well; more likely, Wolyniec, who I doubt the Quakes would want. Maybe the Quakes trade Cannon for an allocation, and the Quakes try to actually use the damn thing, what with Haig's link to the free transfer list and all.
How cool would it be if we could just give them money and be done with it? I think it's called a transfer fee.
I just hope it's not freaking draft picks. The rosters are so small you can't keep most of them. If we are letting Metros get an "impact" player, we should get one in return. At the very least, ask for Eddie Gavin..... With Bob Bradley, I expect the draft picks to be very low first round. They will finish with a good record. Maybe we're asking a lot to force them into taking Walker? Yallop passed on him. Maybe we know something about his character that the Metros don't?
Sorry, but we're still waiting on our money for Barrett, Cannon and Graziani. Tell you what, just have Man U. send us Ole Gunner and we'll trade you Cannon. That's fair, right? We get a reserve forward for a starting keeper.....
Re: Re: Cannon trade? You would have a better chance of getting Ricardo Clark than Eddie Gaven. He's the reason that losing Mathis after this year won't hurt the Metros. It's not impossible, but you're really reaching, aren't you? Wasn't the concensus here at the time that he asked for more money than Yallop expected without being a substantial improvement over Conway... at a time when Conway wasn't yet injured?
Re: Re: Re: Cannon trade? There were some rumors that Walker had an "attitude" when he arrived. Not sure, but I think he was told he'd be competing with Conway for # 1 and he didn't like that scenario. He didn't like the MLS deal, but he also talked to some other teams about a tryout and they passed on him as well. MLS wasn't giving him the money he wanted anyway. Look, here is a post I put in the Metro's forum. I think it bears repeating: Let's check out the career stats for Howard, Cannon and new Metro's #1 Paul Grafter. Hmmm....... Grafter has a career Goals against Average (GAA) of 3.12 Ouch!!!!! His BEST year was a 2.50 GAA Howard has a career GAA of 1.49 His WORST year was 1.61 Cannon has a career GAA of 1.25 His WORST year was 1.49 Damn, remember how bad the Quakes were when Cannon first broke in???? They were BOTTOM OF THE LEAGUE for 2 years. And yet, his worst year was still as good as Howard's CAREER GAA. Yeah, SJ should just give you guys Cannon for nothing.
When is it gonna dawn on you that the Metros are in the best possible position to sign a keeper WITHOUT parting with Ricardo Clark, or Eddie Gaven, or Bob Bradley's first-born? 1. Allocation 2. $275,000 in salary cap room 3. Senior international slot 4. Scores of goalkeepers available on free transfers at end of European season Paul Grafer gets to play in July, which is exactly what was going to happen if Tim Howard hadn't caught Alex Ferguson's dull gaze.
It's known vs. unknown. The Metros are sitting pretty right now and are in less of a position to take chances than they would be if they were bottom - or even middle - of the table. I have no idea if they'll take Cannon or not, but I were the Metros, he would be at the top of my list. And by the way, the defense in front of Cannon in 2000 was not exactly spectacular - no Dayak, no Goose, and no Barrett. There was no one in MLS better at saving shots than Cannon. Other areas of his game were lacking, but shot-stopping was his forte.
Haig, you may be right, but you're coming off as pretty desperate. Cannon is a quality keeper. You don't get quality keepers for nothing. Let the Metro's look elsewhere if they're not willing to deal. To give up Cannon and get something like a 3rd round pick in the 2005 draft would be assinine. Thank God our FO is not that stupid. Metros are the ones that need a replacement player immediately - we can wait. BTW - What team in MLS is using one of their SI's on a keeper anyways? Answer: NONE. Not calling you stupid, but...
Onstad's not an SI. He has a green card (married to an american), so he does not count against the SI limit.
If he is traded, I'd at least want to acquire Ziadie and cap room and/or a first round pick. Cannon's worth quite a bit, and the things I mentioned above are the only conceivable things that I can see Bradley being willing to fork over.
Huh? Just because he has a RB in front of his name doesn't mean that Ziadie "helps" at right back. Quake fans should be happy to get anything, cause right now they don't have crap (meaning you don't have Cannon, only his rights). There's no reason to be greedy, picks would be fair and an allocation generous.
Theres no reason to make it easy for the Metros to replace their goalkeeper. Im all for waiting to see how desperate the Metros are to replace howard.