Canadian Premier league

Discussion in 'Canada' started by mikehurst21, Feb 3, 2016.

  1. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I brought up Burnaby as an alternative such as the former site of Empire Field if the Caps couldn't stay downtown.

    Surrey is a clear target of CPL as the league has plans for Fraser Valley. Langley looks like the most likely place with the Skytrain set to reach it's centre.

    No, I don't see the Caps ever going there but Surrey is rapidly growing (3rd fastest in the country) and rapid urbanization like we're witnessing in Mississauga and Vaughan in York Region. That makes the league smart to go to these places as they have a long term plan for all the tiers in Canada (from a Canadian perspective of course) ;)
     
  2. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Empire Field isn't as accessible as downtown is the main issue. For the most part it requires a SkyTrain ride, a bus ride, and then a 10 minute walk. Anytime you have mode transfers, you decrease the number of people willing to make the trip.
     
  3. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    BMO Field = Subway + Streetcar + Walk
    Stade Saputo = Subway + Walk

    BMO requires more transfers and their attendance is stronger
     
  4. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Saputo were a competent owner, it may be a valid comparison. ;)
     
  5. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Exactly, so it's more than just transit :)

    I can tell you that Hamilton has terrible transit, parking and traffic to their stadium but attendance was the strongest in the CPL whole transit wise, York is the most convenient of all the clubs with Edmonton as a close 2nd...
     
  6. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 7, 2007
    A walk from BMO
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    This is far too simplistic - BMO is also at a GO stop, and is walking distance from four streetcar lines that all link to the subway system at various points. Besides being in a medium dense walkable area.
     
  7. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes... There are other factors, but it’s a pretty proven fact that mode transfers are a deterrent to transit use. This is particularly true if each mode requires their own fare (no idea if Vancouver does this, but Toronto does not).

    There's also going to be a difference between how big an impact transit has based on how important transit is in to the city. If we’re talking about a city like Vancouver where the populace is used to taking transit, then attendance is going to be far more impacted by how accessible their stadium is by transit than cities where the populace isn’t used to taking transit.
     
  8. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I don't disagree but it sucks for those who aren't downtown. Even at my most "pro MLS supporter" (2012-2016), transiting to Exhibition sucked. (I'm a North York resident). Having briefly lived near Liberty village, *most* of the fans were from Downtown and those arriving by GO.

    Coming down Line 1 from Sheppard West back then and from Sheppard-Yonge now, it's night and day when we're talking Leafs/Raptors/Jays fans doing the trek vs TFC fans on the trains.

    I'm just saying that TFC has done little to appeals to fans outside of the downtown core until recently.

    When I lived in Montreal, suburbans wanted no parts of commuting to watch Montreal Impact. Even as a resident of NDG, transiting all the way east was not ideal, I doubt Impact has any reach past highway 15. (Middle of the Island).

    Same as TFC and Saputo admitted it, they've done little to appeal to the whole Island, let alone the 450.

    I don't know Vancouver enough to judge but TFC could be much bigger than they are, same for Montreal.

    Just my observation, or disappointment as a fan at my highest point as a fan of MLS Canadian teams. Transit wasn't the issue or a very small part of the equation imo
     
  9. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    There has been speculation on the effect of MLS Next on CPL. In my opinion, it's another name for "dead end". Unless a player knows that he will get first club minutes, I don't think it will be viewed more favourably than CPL by young Canadians. Like this guy below would be better off in CPL or abroad than going in MLS Next
     
  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I read an article saying the Whitecaps are so stacked with talented youth players that its inevitable that they'll lose a bunch.
     
  11. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
    Not sure the appeal of any player signing with the Whitecaps.
     
  12. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    If any team was in a position to give serious minutes to an up and coming youngster, it would be Vancouver.
     
  13. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They've already got 10 home-growns on their 30 man roster and they've got 4 more in their development squad that currently have noone to play.
     
  14. Kit

    Kit Member+

    Aug 30, 1999
    Herkimer, NY, USA
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    CPL continues with its excellent ratings for a league that's in its 2nd season
     

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