Canadian Men's National Team - N&E

Discussion in 'Canada' started by EvanJ, Jan 15, 2019.

  1. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I recommend those in depth analysis

    Canadians in Portugal
    • Why Eustaquio is the future at midfield and brings something Canada had a hard time solving (breaking through teams playing very defensively
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      Canadians in Belgium
    • David is not only dangerous as a striker but as an attacking midfield
    • Larin huge improvement making him a super sub for us
    • CPL MVP Tristan Borges adding depth at midfield and validating CPL level of play
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  2. RocketRobin

    RocketRobin Member

    Canada
    Feb 3, 2007
    Toronto
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    World Soccer 500 (ie The 500 most important players) published in World Soccer monthly magazine September 2020 issue. Not ranked but listed in alphabetical order. (They do this list each year)

    Number of Canadians 3

    Jonathan David Gent & Canada 'Lightning quick and smart, he scored 23 goals for Gent last season, and already has 11 from just 12 international caps. He is on the radar of Europe's elite clubs.'

    Alphonso Davies Bayern Munich & Canada 'In no time at all, the 19-year-old has gone from promising winger to supercharged, supersonic left-back. Probably the world's most exciting full-back.'

    Christine Sinclair Portland Thorns & Canada 'With 186 goals in 296 games, the 37-year-old is the top-scoring and most-capped international footballer of all time – what else is there to say?'

    (I noticed only 8 women on their list)

    WS 500 by club: 1. Bayern Munich with 14 2. tie Liverpool and Manchester City with 12 each

    WS 500 by league: 1. England (Prem) with 69 2. Germany (Bund) with 65

    WS 500 by country: 1. France with 49 2. Spain with 41 (USA and Mexico 13 each, Canada with 3, Costa Rica and Honduras with 1 each make up Concacaf)
     
  3. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The top seeds will host the second and third seeds and go to the fourth and fifth seeds. The draw will be on Wednesday.
     
  4. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The dates have been announced. Your schedule is:

    Thursday October 8: host Grenada/Barbaos/Guyana/Saint Vincent and the Grenadines/Bermuda/Belize
    Sunday October 11: at Saint Lucia/Puerto Rico/Cuba/Montserrat/Dominica/Cayman Islands
    Saturday November 14: at Bahamas/Aruba/Turks and Caicos Islands/U.S. Virgin Islands/British Virgin Islands/Anguilla
    Tuesday November 17: host Antigua and Barbuda/Guatemala/Saint Kitts and Nevis/Suriname/Nicaragua/Dominican Republic

    Some of those teams may not play their home games at home. Should eastern Canada and western Canada each get a game? Do the locations of the opponents matter in terms of travel with only two days off in between games? The 1 seed in both windows has their second game against a team with one more day of rest. The draw is tomorrow.
     
  5. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    October 8, host Bermuda
    October 11, visit Cayman Islands
    November 14, visit Aruba
    November 17, host Suriname

    I'm not sure our host cities make that much difference in terms of travel. I'd suggest Toronto in October and Vancouver in November if we want larger crowds or else some combination of Edmonton and Winnipeg if we want a weather advantage.
     
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  6. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #281 EvanJ, Aug 19, 2020
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2020
    Here are each opponent's FIFA Ranking, FIFA Ranking in Concacaf, and FIFA Ranking in Concacaf range for that pot:

    Bermuda: 168, 22, 18-23
    Cayman Islands: 193, 29, 24-29
    Aruba: 200, 31, 30-35
    Suriname: 141, 15, 12-17

    Group E, which has your Round 2 opponent, has Haiti, Nicaragua, Belize, Saint Lucia, and Turks and Caicos Islands. Wikipedia says the groups with the worse top team, D through F, get the advantage of hosting the second leg. I don't know why Concacaf did that or if Wikipedia is wrong. If your second leg is at Haiti, where would you want to host them a few days earlier?

    If you want to predict every WCQ in Concacaf, go to https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/c...up-2022-prediction-contest-round-1-r.2110827/

    All three teams from Round 2 will play their first Octagonal game at home. If you reach it, your schedule is:

    1. Honduras (H)
    2. USA (A)
    3. Group A or F (H)
    4. Mexico (A)
    5. Jamaica (A)
    6. Group C or D (H)
    7. Costa Rica (H)
    8. Mexico (H)
    9. Honduras (A)
    10. USA (H)
    11. Group A or F (A)
    12. Costa Rica (A)
    13. Jamaica (H)
    14. Group C or D (A)

    You must win your first game because then you have three of four away including at USA and Mexico. The first four games are in one Window, so you'll be at USA and Mexico a week apart. You have three consecutive home games that include Costa Rica and Mexico in the same window. The fifth window has an away game where you've struggled and hosting USA, and you end with three of four away. If you're in contention with two games left, hosting Jamaica and going to a Group C or D team all of which are worse than you in the FIFA Rankings are easy opponents.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_–_CONCACAF_Third_Round#Matches has the Octagonal schedule.
     
  7. jagum

    jagum Member

    CF Montreal
    Venezuela
    Jun 20, 2007
    Panama City, Panama
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Venezuela
    The game against Aruba will surely be played in Curaçao, because the Guillermo Próspero Trinidad stadium in Oranjestad does not meet FIFA's requirements
     
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  8. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    Anywhere but Montreal so as to avoid Montreal's massive Haitian community.
     
  10. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/concacaf-aspirants-react-as-path-to-qatar-2022-laid-out says:

    "“There is a group of players that have been part of the battle these past two years, they’ve been developing together on and off the pitch and they will be the narrators of what could be an amazing story for soccer in this country. It is important that when competing in Concacaf, at a stage where every game has so much at stake, that we are always at our strongest. We know this a long campaign consisting of 20 matches to reach Qatar 2022 and there are various stages in this campaign for which we have to plan.” John Herdman, Canada coach"

     
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  11. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    We will certainly need to be at our strongest because, especially in the first two rounds, there is little to no room for errors.

    I'm happy to see the core of our team that has been building up for the past two years or so take this on. That said, Herdman is also going to have the task of continuing to integrate rising new talent. That's a new "problem" for the CNT but it's quite possible that some of the players who will start if we make 2022 aren't yet top of mind to coaches and fans. Two years ago, for example, Jonathan David was still mostly unknown.
     
  12. javer

    javer Member

    Sep 11, 2012
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Canada have a tough group for wcq with Bermuda and Suriname, Bermuda are no pushovers they've beaten Panama in nations league and nearly beat Mexico if not for some last minute heroics.


    Suriname are straight dogs they fight hard and they will be getting new players from the Eredivisie, Turkish league, etc.
     
  13. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    I never want to underestimate an opponent or show them disrespect. That said, if we can't win in this group we shouldn't be in the World Cup anyway. My biggest concern in qualifying is actually round two because it is a simple home and away. One quirky, bad game could sink us.
     
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  14. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
  16. tm13

    tm13 Member

    Jan 15, 2008
    Rocky Mountains
    Here's hoping Davies recovers completely.
     
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  17. tm13

    tm13 Member

    Jan 15, 2008
    Rocky Mountains
    Tony Waiters passing has left me feeling very melancholy. RIP Tony
     
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  18. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #293 Robert Borden, Dec 23, 2020
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2020
    Canada Soccer have announced their squad for the upcoming January 2021 Men’s National Team camp
    https://canadasoccer.com/news/canad...l-team-camp-presented-by-allstate-in-january/

    GK- Maxime Crépeau | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    GK- James Pantemis | CAN / Impact de Montréal
    GK- Dayne St. Clair | USA / Minnesota United FC
    CB- Derek Cornelius | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    CB- Belal Halbouni | GER / SV Werder Bremen II
    CB- Kamal Miller | CAN / Impact de Montréal
    CB- Frank Sturing | NED / FC Den Bosch
    CB- Joel Waterman | CAN / Impact de Montréal
    FB- Samuel Adekugbe | NOR / Vålerenga Fotball
    FB- Zorhan Bassong | CAN / Impact de Montréal
    FB- Zachary Brault-Guillard | CAN / Impact de Montréal
    FB- Tajon Buchanan | USA / New England Revolution
    FB- Cristián Gutierrez | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    FB- Alistair Johnston | USA / Nashville SC
    FB- Richie Laryea | CAN / Toronto FC
    M- Tesho Akindele | USA / Orlando City SC
    M- Marco Bustos | CAN / Pacific FC
    M- Liam Fraser | CAN / Toronto FC
    M- Mark-Anthony Kaye | USA / Los Angeles FC
    M- Noble Okello | CAN / Toronto FC
    M- Jonathan Osorio | CAN / Toronto FC
    M- Samuel Piette | CAN / Impact de Montréal
    M- Ralph Priso | CAN / Toronto FC
    F- Ayo Akinola | CAN / Toronto FC
    F- Lucas Cavallini | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    F- Marcelo Flores | ENG / Arsenal U-18
    F- Jayden Nelson | CAN / Toronto FC
    F- Theo Corbeanu | ENG / Wolverhampton Wolves

    Association switch
    Akinola and Flores have not gone through a change of association, but Corbeanu (Romania) and Sturing (Netherlands) already have. Both Flores (Mexico) and Akinola (United States) have accepted the invites and are confirmed to attend. Corbeanu will drop out if he`s needed by Wolves

    Canada approach has been to encourage Akinola to attend the USA camp and consider all his options. They won't rush him and he doesn't really need to decide until March or June. He has wanted to experience a Canadian camp and will now (belatedly) get that opportunity.

    Youth Generation
    The camp will feature 18 players born 1997 or later, thus also making them eligible for the upcoming 2021 Concacaf Olympic Qualifying Championship

    Newcomers
    Cristián Gutiérrez, Dayne St. Clair, Alistair Johnston, Tajon Buchanan, Joel Waterman, Ayo Akinola, Ralph Priso, Theo Corbeanu, Marcelo Flores, Belal Halbouni, and Frank Sturing

    CPL players
    Marco Bustos from Pacific FC
    Also former Cavalry FC Joel Waterman who was sold to Montreal Impact
     
  19. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    Definitely slanting young and North American-based for this camp, which is a good idea.

    Great to see Akinola on the list. I hope he comes and doesn't look back.
     
  20. Stephen O'Kane

    Stephen O'Kane New Member

    Liverpool
    Canada
    Sep 23, 2020
    Hello,
    Have a listen to the Soccer Snobs podcast, they've had some amazing men's national team guests from Gerry Gray and Alex Bunbury back in the day to Julian De Guzman. They've also had Charmaine Hooper on and recently Janine Beckie. Check it out it's an awesome show with some great humour.

    www.soccersnobs.ca/listen

    or it can be found on any podcast platform like Spotify, Apple, Google, Podcast Addict, etc.
     
  21. legendofzola

    legendofzola Member

    Jun 4, 2006
    Cape Breton
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada

    Thank you for this informative post. Critical to get those newcomers into camp. Another GK option, Buchanan who has been really good , Akinola... Dear god it would be nice if Halbouni and Sturing can step up at CB.
     
  22. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    I wonder if Canada will play their qualifiers for Qatar 2022 in a Bubble? You know like how NBA had their playoffs and Finals in a Bubble and how MLS had their tournament in a Bubble...I wonder if FIFA is doing the same thing for WC qualifiers? Sorry it has been a very long time since I've been here well been away grieving so I haven't really been paying attention to soccer all that much
     
  23. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jonathan Tannenwald
    @thegoalkeeper

    14m
    A source with knowledge of the situation tells The Inquirer that Cayman Islands vs. Canada - being played at IMG Academy in Bradenton, Fla. - is tentatively rescheduled for tomorrow (Monday) at 6 p.m. ET.
     
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  24. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  25. RocketRobin

    RocketRobin Member

    Canada
    Feb 3, 2007
    Toronto
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Report on my time on Sun Oct 2/22 at the The Allstate Soccer Show in Mississauga. Contains 55 min audio from panel on 'Canada at the WC in Qatar' with five national team players and some other panels.

    Also the end of a panel discussion with three CPL players on 'Being a Veteran in a Growing League'. Wilson and Giantsopoulos from York and Bekker from Forge.

    http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports22/22york235.htm

    and how could Bryan Robson never have heard of The Smiths?
     

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