Can we all agree now that Gruenebaum is a good keeper?

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by CrewFootball, Apr 30, 2007.

  1. CrewFootball

    CrewFootball Member

    Feb 14, 2007
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Earlier this season, many on this board expressed some harsh criticism of AG. I feel good with AG in goal. It will be interesting to see if Hesmer comes in as soon as he is healthy. A few more clean sheets from AG might make that difficult. Either way, I think AG has a good future with the Crew. Your thoughts, criticisms, venomous bile?:)
     
  2. C-bus

    C-bus Member

    Aug 2, 2006
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think we have a great situation here. AG is young and inexperienced but has a strong defense in front of him so that he's not bombarded with goal scoring opportunities. But it's not just the defense that is making him look great. Every once and a while a good shot gets through and more often than not, he's been there to make the save. I think it's the perfect setting for a young keeper to develope and he's doing it well.

    I raise my glass of Kool-Aid and cheers to Sigi!
     
  3. kaiser kraut

    kaiser kraut New Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think Sigi can just drop AG for Hesmer unless AG does something very poorly to warrant Hesmer getting a crack. It would seem that it's currently AG's to lose.

    HEBREW HAMMER TIME!
     
  4. fidlerre

    fidlerre Member+

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    This reminds me...and I dont mean to put pressure on the poor guy but...

    Sirk's Notebook has the possibility of being truly epic this week.
     
  5. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree 100%. The guy has played really well. He's made a few mistakes but seems to have learned from them and has taken the coaching he's received and applied it to his game. What more could a coach ask for in a young player at any position? He's the #1 until he does something out on the field that would indicate he's not progressing or listening.

    We had a few people clapping along in 107 Saturday night to our very, very poor rendition of Hava nagila. Hebrew Hammer theme song?
     
  6. 9 Rush

    9 Rush Member

    Sep 9, 2004
    C'bus
    Agreed. Barring any injuries, calamities etc he's the starter
     
  7. HardHatMike

    HardHatMike DOOOOOOOOM!

    Traktor Nebraska
    Aug 31, 2005
    Lincoln, Nebraska
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And knowing our luck..... We had better not start counting chicks just yet.
     
  8. Crewfan Scott

    Crewfan Scott New Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Galloway, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really love the Hammer. A great keeper and at times a really good left or right back
     
  9. soccerwookie

    soccerwookie New Member

    Aug 2, 2001
    Columbus OH
    after seeing that run on Saturday I can totally see him in the opponent's box screaming "KEEEP!!" while taking a shot. :D
     
  10. MenaceFanatic

    MenaceFanatic New Member

    Oct 5, 2004
    So, how long until he gets a real contract? Seems like a bargain starting keeper at DEV minimum...........

    He'd probably progress faster if he didn't have to work at the GAP to make ends meet. :rolleyes:
     
  11. HardHatMike

    HardHatMike DOOOOOOOOM!

    Traktor Nebraska
    Aug 31, 2005
    Lincoln, Nebraska
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Depends on how long he stays healthy, imho.
     
  12. MenaceFanatic

    MenaceFanatic New Member

    Oct 5, 2004
    Thought you guys might find this interesting-- Andy's mom used to cruise these Boards (as a proud parent) but quit some time ago because of the flack he was taking. She has stayed in contact with some from Des Moines area, and will probably make it out to a Menace game this year. Very cool lady.... hope we see Andy again this season at a game. He is always welcome here.
     
  13. kaiser kraut

    kaiser kraut New Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, he's not going to get a "real" contract until we have fewer than 2 keepers already on the Senior roster. If things go well for Andy, I'd assume he pushes Gaudette off the squad at some point.

    As for the proud parent, well, wish somebody had told her that this isn't Disneyland and is in fact a brutal place and should be avoided if you don't want to see your son taken to task once in a while (or often, depending on who your son is).
     
  14. Nonesuch

    Nonesuch Member

    May 16, 1999
    Old Gridania
    I think he's a better keeper now than he was just a few weeks ago. Looks like he has a good coach and the potential to develop. He also has some competition for his spot.
     
  15. TheOtherBastard

    TheOtherBastard New Member

    Aug 14, 2000
    Akron, OH
    As has been said before, he also has one of the better defenses in the league (to this point at least) in front of him which is allowing him to gain some confidence which is helping him make those big saves when a shot does break through on us.

    If he keeps this up though, there won't be any reason why he shouldn't get a nice big pay raise and full roster slot by next season at the absolute latest.
     
  16. futballpunk

    futballpunk New Member

    Aug 22, 2003
    Temperance, MI

    Ives? Is that you?
     
  17. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good God Andy's crazy. But I like him.
     
  18. Raoul

    Raoul New Member

    Sep 19, 1999
    Downtown Dublin
    Agreed, I thought his positioning on free kicks was better and he has the guts and size to draw respect on interlopers into the box. His mistakes are aggressive/positive mistakes rather than pure shot blocker - my style keeper.
     
  19. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like...high five
     
  20. AkronSoccerFan

    AkronSoccerFan New Member

    Jul 14, 2005
    Akron, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Having a good defense in front of you makes every keeper better. However, there are a couple times in every game where the good ones make the saves where they need to.

    Reviewing the game, the biggest moment of test for AG was the free kick DC had just outside the box in the 67th minute. Gomez put in a wicked bended that demanded a good save and Andy got it, damn near punching the ball into first row of 103.

    The fact he has his entire MLS career in front of him is very comforting to me. As a former keeper, I like seeing a strong guy in the last line of defense.

    Remember, the DC game was only Andy's sixth start of his MLS career (including two from last season). This is basically his rookie year. Sigi said during the preseason that fans would have to see who was in net at season's outset and that he was very satisfied with the players he had set for goal (injuries notwithstanding). I guess he knew what he was talking about.

    I'd love to see Andy continue to grow. Having him in net for the next five or six years could be very rewarding. And remember, goaltender lifespans tend to run longer than field players (witness the number of keepers that are effective, if not world class, well past 35.)

    Oh, and about that developmental contract? Dont worry about it. If Andy continues to put up the kind of numbers he has so far over the course of a full season, either Wild Bill or Hesmer will be gone quicker than you can say Dos-a-Cero! I have a feeling thats exactly what may happen.
     
  21. kaiser kraut

    kaiser kraut New Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Sigi is high on Hesmer, so Bill is more likely to get the axe... for what its worth
     
  22. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, as an early critic of Andy I must say I've been delighted so far. He did go "walkabout" again last game, on a ball wide 35 yards from goal on the sideline, so there still room for improvement there. But he' definately improving. I'll take him over Hislop right now (and others, like Dida).
     
  23. kaiser kraut

    kaiser kraut New Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    His last wanderlust moment wasn't as scary and he actually did what he was supposed to do with it when he got there. So, at least he learned that if he's going to go out there, not to jack it up.... :D
     
  24. DGA57

    DGA57 Member

    Jun 17, 2002
    Dublin, OH
    That didn't bother me as much as his indecision earlier in the game when Emilio was in a race with Ezra. He went back, then went back out and Ezra cleared for a throw-in.
     
  25. Crewfan Scott

    Crewfan Scott New Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Galloway, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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