CAN USA MEX? The 2026 FIFA World Cup Thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by ArsenalJake, Jun 1, 2026.

  1. Plumstead Common

    Arsenal
    Dec 27, 2024
    DaPrince84 repped this.
  2. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I disagree. That was an elite, utterly dominant performance from Spain against a team that turned into a battering ram whenever it needed a goal.
     
  3. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    An elite, utterly dominating performance doesn’t require a 106th-minute winner.
     
  4. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Sometimes ball just doesn’t go in. They held the tournament’s leading scorers to no shots until the 118th minute.

    Spain had the lowest xG against in World Cup history by two goals, and did so while playing an extra game.
     
    maskito and The Jitty Slitter repped this.
  5. Plumstead Common

    Arsenal
    Dec 27, 2024
    Spain is damn great. .they held opponents to total xG of around 2.6 entire damn tournament

    that is incredibly tough to do
     
    mebeSajid repped this.
  6. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Someone on the Australian channel SBS was caught on a hot mike saying "they are gonna edit him out" or something similar while Trump waddled out of the way :D
     
    mebeSajid repped this.
  7. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Waddled is both the correct verb and so ridiculously insulting. The new and improved Ozempic is working tho.
     
  8. Plumstead Common

    Arsenal
    Dec 27, 2024
    I get the frustration of the new World Cup

    I am not a fan of the hydration breaks, commercialization of the event, the distances of matches, the degrading treatment of certain teams, the politics behind his expanded money grab - but the World Cup - when you just look through myopic lense of sport - was pretty entertaining. Plenty of drama and classic matches.
    Honestly - I thought 90 final was boring as well and quite frankly the entire tournament was lukewarm.
     
  9. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--

    Attached Files:

  10. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    It was an utterly dominant defensive performance. Spain obviously had trouble scoring, and not just in this game, with Yamal not being 2024 Yamal.
     
  11. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    The xG suggests that Portugal were the best side they faced. Or at least the one who could live with Spain.

    We'll never know the counterfactual of what might have been if Portugal decided to play with 11 players
     
  12. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I don’t know about xG for their game against France, but to a large degree that game was about game state, first the pk and then Saliba going down. Possession was 51-49, so they didn’t dominate possession the way they did against everyone else, shots were even with France having one more shot on target, but Spain’s two shots on target hit the back of the net, and Spain were credited with two last man tackles. Spain were the best team in the tournament, but football is often a game of fine margins and France gave them as good a game, if not better than Portugal did.
     
    The Jitty Slitter repped this.
  13. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Spain were doing their grind, just like they did to beat Portugal. The game showed how one dimensional France were.

    It ought to be remembered that pre-tournament, when things were more sane, Spain were a clear favourite. Then all the cool kids got overly excited about teams like France and England's muscular post-positional goon ball.

    I also found myself believing that the attacking gravity has to win out. But then football reverted to type and midfield dominance counted for more than a star winning the game in a moment of brilliance.

    I agree it's fine margins though. Play these games 100s of times and in some of those games Mbappe, Olise, Bellingham, Kane or Messi win the game for you
     
  14. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I do think there are a lot of draw effects here.

    Portugal messed up, and were forgotten about when Spain ground them down. Whereas Argentina were gifted an armchair ride to the semis, plus a wild reffing tilt

    However clearly the Spain/France/Portugal side of the draw had much more quality as we now see. But also just based on the players in those sides.

    England will be kicking themselves, but to be fair to them, they had to get past the Azteca, and I recall before that game, Ted and co pointed out that the draw effect meant England would struggle to get to the final even if they could get past Mexico.

    Argentina became wildly overrated due to comebacks against sides they should have been able to beat most days.

    In any event, I think the main lesson of the tournament was under indexing on possession.
     
  15. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    That part is true: Portugal were the only team who could match up with Spain in possession, but need someone who’s got the nerve to actually drop Ronaldo. Imagine if Portugal hire Pep.
     
    The Jitty Slitter repped this.
  16. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The thing about goon ball is that’s the direction the game is moving in. Barcelona just signed Anthony Gordon.
     
    DaPrince84 repped this.
  17. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Portugal is just insane to me.
     
  18. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Yeah. I actually thought Tuchel made the right decision not trying to integrate proper possession oriented players - simply too hard basket. And maybe he was right about that still. England's psychological and tactical collapse was super weird.
     
  19. maskito

    maskito Member+

    Arsenal
    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    He’s not really goon. Rashford is more that than Gordon, if I understand what “goon ball” Means in this context.

    Gordon genuinely impressed me at the World Cup and I see why Arteta wanted him.
     
    The Jitty Slitter repped this.
  21. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    Any halfway athletic person is considered a "goon" to non-athletic people. :p In today's game, you really need both skill and athleticism. It's rare for a team full of nonathletes to compete in anything. But, we saw athletic teams like Cape Verde, Norway and Colombia punch above their weight.

    My takeways from the World Cup were that the two final teams went far without a proper #9. Also, many teams in the tournament played 3 in the back with good success. Everything else was par for the course.

    Overall, I enjoyed the World Cup even though FIFA tried to ruin it. The final sucked too, but you can't have it all.
     
  22. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Gordon is awesome IMO
     
  23. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    DaPrince84 and thebigman repped this.
  24. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Do tell.
     
  25. rifkin

    rifkin Member

    Mar 8, 2001
    Philly
    Club:
    Arsenal FC

    Well I decided it wasn't worth it but it wasn't a case of agitating the animal.
     

Share This Page