Cameron Carter-Vickers at Celtic

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by BostonRed, Aug 13, 2014.

  1. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I know it's for the NT forums but currently where does Cameron rank in the defender pecking order? 5th? 6th?
     
  2. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think he's top four right now unless perhaps if Zimmermann completely recovers and gets back the form he had in last cycle.
     
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  3. ReynaRanger

    ReynaRanger Member

    Fulham
    United States
    May 23, 2021
    ... He may very well be second before long, unless Ream keeps fighting off Father Time. Not a lot of great options at CB; we really need CCV to stay healthy.

    We also might need him to transfer to a better league. Any word about that?
     
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  4. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Please discuss in the National team forum.
     
  5. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    I'm not sure your post does justice to how bonkers the game was especially given the stakes. :) One outlet had the title "Best Old Firm Ever". Celtic essentially had the title wrapped up for most of the game only to give up an equalizer in the 86th minute until...Celtics took the lead back in the 87th minute, only to (likely) give up the title 3 minutes later.

    I don't think CCV was much at fault for any of the 3 goals - the quality of play is certainly a step or two down from the PL.
     
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  6. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    It's not the last two games, friend. There's a "Phase Two" with five more games after "Phase One" wraps up this weekend. More opportunities for Rangers and/or Celtic to choke.
     
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  7. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Oh - well, that changes my post! I thought it was down to 2 games.
     
  8. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Yeah, it was a crazy game, but as my "interest" is divided and the fandom of OF games can get a bit... uh... invested, I figured I wouldn't get too far into the game itself. A Celtic win would not have put the season out of reach either - but would have set Gers up for needing to romp both Dundee and Ross as they have to win GD if the points are tied. This is closest SPL season in years and has been a lot of fun. Just sad there are no YAs on Gers for this season.
     
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  9. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    See above - they will play again in Phase Two.
     
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  10. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    You're right. I was only looking at the phase 1 schedule. Still the closest SPL in a while, but the OF get a couple more kicks at the can and each other. Tomorrow still looms large for Gers. If they don't pick up full points their margin for error erodes. If they can grab three the pressure stays on Celtic and CCV.
     
  11. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Well, if we don't talk about NT issues here we have to talk about Scottish football and who wants to do that?

    And that's if you call SPL games football
     
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  12. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    True to an extent, but if that last game didn't keep you glued nothing will. I get the nationalism and wanting to keep the hinterlands entertained, but it seems well beyond time that Netherlands, Scotland, Belgium, Denmark and Sweden put together a "league of their own" - but it would have to get 10 CL slots for anyone to go for it! lol.
     
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  13. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    The Atlantic League idea (the Old Firm, Portugal's Big 4, Holland and Belgium's Top 5) has been bandied about since the early 2000s and there's a push to pilot something similar in the Baltic states (https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...e-pioneer-for-cross-border-football-in-europe). Just before COVID erupted, a relatively wealthy Dublin businessman had organized a series of meetings between the leagues and the governing bodies to assess the possibilities of an all-Ireland league.

    For the Atlantic League idea, IIRC the idea was that the highest-placed team from each country would get a CL slot automatically, with 2 more places being allocated after a playoff competition between the next 8 highest sides and the losers going into the EL. Keeping the hinterlands entertained was to come from the big boys entering the domestic cup competitions (but ineligible for EL places if they won) and the winners of each domestic league being promoted to the Atlantic League.

    That's not 10 CL slots, but something has to change because pretty soon nobody outside the usual suspects from the EPL, BL1, La Liga, Serie A and PSG will make the CL quarter finals. Not long after that, it'll be the EL quarter finals
     
  14. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Yeah, the Atlantic League will forever be the Atlantis of leagues, a legendary utopia that exists only in the imagination. The various powers that be will never give up the power is my bet, but it's the right kind of idea. There is simply not enough money at the bottom end of the lesser "good" leagues to field real competition (or enough revenue) for the few good teams.
     
  15. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Yeah, versions of this has also been talked about quite a long time as well, but the SPL and Scottish footie establishment will do anything they can to squash it, since it will take the only big money teams out of the SPL.
     
  16. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe they'd go for it if they get a guaranteed percentage of those teams extra money. BTW, there is precedent for teams outside of their countries playing elsewhere. Obviously the three Canadian teams in MLS and what two Welsh teams in the EPL. Even Australia leaving Oceania.
     
  17. Dunno how big in number of clubs the first and second division of both Scotland and Ireland are, but iirc Rangers and Celtic play each other 3 times, given the way the SPL works.
    If one merges those two leagues to form a combined first and second division, it would be more competitive.
     
  18. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Celtic and Gers could join the EPL pretty easily. Hearts this season (Aberdeen and/or Hibs some others) as well, but there are so many political, social and financial hurdles to even just bringing them in the EPL structure that I doubt it happens any time soon if ever. I'd bet some sort of "Atlantic League" thing happens before there is any joining of Scottish clubs into the English/Welsh system - too many lazy fat bastards cash checks for sipping whisky, smoking cigars and "working" for footie for it happen easily.
     
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  19. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    25-30 years ago Rangers and Celtic to the EPL was a possibility, but not now. The Old Firm just don't bring enough to the party in terms of prestige or an international supporter base: the large numbers of Scottish emigrants who moved to Canada or Down Under in the 50s and 60s are retired now and their grandkids are little different from other Canadians or Australians of their age group.

    Meanwhile, Scottish football has declined so much that from next season the SPL champions will have to play a qualifier to enter the CL group stages, replaced by the Czech league.

    Is having Rangers in the EPL going to do anything to boost the next TV rights deal in the US or the Gulf? By any more than having Leeds there?
     
  20. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Celtic and Rangers would bring more eyeballs than Soton or Burnley for sure, but SPL will never figure it out even if they wanted to. And Gers/Hoops don't add enough for the EPL to make it enticing enough.
     
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  21. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Starring performance from CCV against St Mirren today. FotMob 8.2, chance created, 9/10 on duels, 94% passing, 3-0 shutout win, 0 SOG conceded. Safe to say he did well. Four points up on Rangers, but Rangers with two matches in hand.
     
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  22. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And now Rangers with one less game in hand . . . as they lose today.
     
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  23. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    It's now Celtic's to lose. If they win out, they win.
     
  24. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Started the semis of the Scottish Cup:

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    Gave up a 90th minute equalizer. Leading 3-2 in the 115th.
     

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