C(ass)ano - Buy or Sell?

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  1. bobarino

    bobarino New Member

    Feb 11, 2004
    U.S.A.
    Club:
    AS Roma
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    Italy
    I say lose the bullet head. Get some cash and/or some level-headed talent and make Roma a more stable squad. Zlatan would be nice from Juve, or a Pippo and Pozzi combo from Milan. I might even settle for Jon Dahl. Anybody else got a take on this one?

    [b]Sensi: Roma Could Sell Cassano[/b]21/10/04

    AS Roma president has admitted for the first time that the Giallorossi may be of the mind to deal enfant terrible striker Antonio Cassano rather than extend his contract.

    "There are problems that don't help me want to keep him," he explained. "These are character problems and not financial ones.”

    "Yet again on Tuesday, he got into a slapping match,” sighed Sensi. "I have given him countless chances to change, but we cannot go on like this.”

    "I have offered him €5 million a year, but I'm not sure if I want to offer this again - He has not made any contact so I won't make any more offers."


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  2. Spartak

    Spartak Member

    Nov 6, 1999
    Philly
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Watching De Rossi against Leverkusen it is now apparent that Cassano and Totti's bad habits are rubbing off on him. I think it's about time to just sell both Totti and Cassano and use the money to start fresh. Cassano's destination is very simple, one of the Milan clubs or a move abroad. I'm guessing Roma would rather ship him abroad but does Cassano want to leave Italy? If he doesn't he will be playing in Milan next year. Be it in blue or red is anybody's guess right now.
     
  3. Forza Badger

    Forza Badger New Member

    Aug 29, 2004
    i'm
    For some time now it is apparent Cassano is going to leave Roma. He is a very talented player but as we all know his attitude has been getting the best of him. I like to think optimistically and say that he will grow out of it, and it is blown out of proportion. Whatever happens he really should shape up.

    I think a move to Real (was rumored) would almost be perfect. He might lose his attitude when he finds out how much competition there is. Also, I could be wrong, but I doubt Roma wants to dumb Cassano to a Serie A club. It is always possible that it could come right back to bite them in the ass. :D

    On another note, Roma won't sell Totti. They have the money to keep him now (and Cassano if they wished). Totti has caused his bit of controversy but is vital to the team. Unless Roma was to get Tevez or someone along those lines, selling Totti is a mistake.
     
  4. sardus_pater

    sardus_pater Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    Sardinia Italy EU
    Club:
    Cagliari Calcio
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    And if we take into account positives and negatives Totti gave to Roma still the positives are far more than the negatives.

    But I guess Spartak is suggesting this hoping Milan to sign Totti.

    Also I didn't notice him writing "Milan shouldn't buy Cassano, we don't want him!" ;)
     
  5. bobarino

    bobarino New Member

    Feb 11, 2004
    U.S.A.
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    CASSANO TO TRAIN ALONE

    Maverick Roma striker Antonio Cassano will train separately from his team-mates for the next few days, the club announced on Friday.

    The decision is described by the Eternal City outfit as by mutual agreement between Cassano and coach Luigi Del Neri.

    However, Cassano is renowned for being a difficult character and this week club president Franco Sensi said that he was not sure if he wanted to offer the player a new contract.

    A statement posted on the www.asromacalcio.it website read: "Roma makes it known that after a chat at the end of yesterday's training session Mr Del Neri and Antonio Cassano have agreed that the player will follow a different training programme.

    "With such a decision, taken in common agreement with the club, the coach and the player are looking for him to reach a better physical condition and improvement on the field to try and fully reach the expectations of the club which continues to consider Antonio Cassano part of the heritage of Roma and of Italian football."

    Earlier in the week, Sensi revealed he was not sure if he wanted to keep paying the player 5 million euros a year.

    His contract expires in 2006 but while Cassano is arguably the most talented player in Italian football he has fallen out with a succession of coaches during his short career.
     
  6. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    Bobarino, is there a link you can post instead of the whole article? Just want to adhere to copyright laws. Unless those are your own words ... ;)
     
  7. bobarino

    bobarino New Member

    Feb 11, 2004
    U.S.A.
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I wish I could write like that. I will provide the "missing link" in lieu of the verbage from now. Thanks Sue. :)
     
  8. LA Galaxy Fan

    LA Galaxy Fan Member

    Feb 28, 2000
    Tokyo
  9. Forza Badger

    Forza Badger New Member

    Aug 29, 2004
    i'm
    Totti would probably NEVER goto another Serie A club. From what I've read he has a pretty strong loyalty to Roma and the only other club he was considering is Real. Not to mention it would take a lot for Roma to willingly dump Totti. The closest was when they were having financial problems and were going to sell him to Real. Milan doesn't need Totti anyway.

    Milan would take Cassano, Juve as well. There are a few others I believe that are interested. Most seem to think they can get over his attitude problems. Like I said before, I don't think Roma wants to sell Cassano to another Serie A club. If they could sell him out of country for good money I believe they will.
     
  10. danielmak

    danielmak Member

    Sep 26, 2004
    off the purple line
    Totti can make some blunders (e.g., spitting in the Euros) but he is one of the best players in the world. I would only sell Totti if he was in the final year of his deal and was guaranteed to leave. And since Roma has a cash infusion, I'm sure they will extend his deal; they should extend his deal. As far as Milan having no need for Totti given the number of midfielders they have already, that doesn't mean much to the biggest clubs. Did Milan need Crespo? Did Real need Owen? If they could get Totti then they would get rid of Rui Costa or Seedorf or Pirlo.

    The press reports the same thing. But why would Capello want Cassano? Take care.
     
  11. PokerNSoccer

    PokerNSoccer New Member

    Sep 29, 2004
    Area 51 Chicago
    Just keep Antonio Cassano!!Yes, he has had a couple of disciplinary issues but which young player hasnt in his position at a huge club? e.x.Rooney (with allegedly a hooker which is fiance found out)!
     
  12. bobarino

    bobarino New Member

    Feb 11, 2004
    U.S.A.
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Gilardino, Kaka, De Rossi and many more....

    No excuses for his attitude and lack of discipline which causes chemistry problems for the entire club. Sometimes the most talented individual can be the worst member of a team. Last time I checked the game is still played with 11. One bad apple, no matter how pretty it may look, can spoil the entire batch -- especially if it's spoiled rotten to the core.
     
  13. danielmak

    danielmak Member

    Sep 26, 2004
    off the purple line
    Picking up a hooker is not a problem in my opinion unless it's happening at 4 am on the morning of a game. (Yes, I know there are a whole host of issues that come into play with prostitution: abuse, exploitation, etc.) Showing up the coach and disrupting the team more generally is a problem. Yes, young players (just like young people more generally) are going to make mistakes, and sometimes those mistakes will hurt the team (e.g., losing one's temper and getting a red card) but the problems with Cassano (this is the third of the last four coaches--even if all of them have held the position in the past year--that has had problems with Cassano). Take care.
     
  14. delp_07

    delp_07 New Member

    Oct 20, 2004


    Are you crazy totti has brought more negatives than positives. Sure he won 1 scudetti, but what else has he really won. As a captain he is not responcible at all. He causes trouble in the locker room and he talks ******** about Capello when it is not needed. Francesco Totti is not our Golden Boy and he never will be. This is why he is not an important asset to Italy. Anyone can mark him and it is proven. Last year against Milan. I truly believe our next golden boy of italy is Miccoli. In a couple of years this kid will be the best player in the world maybe. His goal this weekend proved that he could do anything. Right now the tru golden boy of italy is Alessandro Del PIero and i dont care what anyone says but when at prime form he is literally unstoppable. When motivated he is magic, and no body can make the magic plays that he makes. Totti is nothing for Roma and he has proved time and time again that he will never be anything for them. Sell him not cassano, and watch how different the locker room will be.
     
  15. bobarino

    bobarino New Member

    Feb 11, 2004
    U.S.A.
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Wow! Another Juve Kool-Aid drinker. Thank you for sharing your insightful Roma knowledge with us. I think we Romanisti will hold this post in the highest regard for a long time to come. As a matter of fact, I'm going to cut and paste a copy of this post and email it to Sensi straight away. Grazie mille, pazzo.
     
  16. danielmak

    danielmak Member

    Sep 26, 2004
    off the purple line
    The only problem I see with Totti is that he hasn't stood up in situations when other players (notably Cassano and Montella) have shown up the manager. As the captain, Totti needs to be a leader. I understand that there will be situations when the coach isn't a good fit (perhaps this was the case with Voller) but when Cassano was showing up Del Nerri during Del Nerri's first match, Totti needed to be aware that the coaching carousel was hurting Roma. Stability was needed and Cassano was hurting the team with his antics. Totti could have eased some of the tensions and focused the team on the matches rather than the off-field distractions. In short, he needed to be a leader and he didn't appear to be one. Of course, we will never know what happened in the locker room. Maybe he stood up for the manager, but I tend to think not. Take care.
     
  17. romagol10

    romagol10 Member

    Jul 23, 2003
    CO
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    AS Roma
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    United States
  18. fatdanny99

    fatdanny99 New Member

    Nov 5, 2004
    US
    I think it would be good for Morientes to come. Owen wouldn't fit in with an Italian team.
     
  19. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Finally you said something other than worshipping your god Del Piero.
     
  20. gaijin

    gaijin New Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Malaysia
    With the way Owen's playing for Madrid, it looks likely they won't sell him at the minute.

    As for Cassano mouthing off as per usual, - what has happened to Mido? His he still injured?
     
  21. TxTechGooner

    TxTechGooner we're having fun here, no?

    Feb 24, 2003
    SELL SELL SELL!!!

    talk about the ultimate primadonna cancer~
    ive had it with cassano! shame that his value will be that of owens.. very low due to the fact he HAS to leave... otherwise, you are talking about one of the best YOUNG striking talents in the game..
    and he isnt even an option to play in the starting side for roma...
    what a shame~
     
  22. danielmak

    danielmak Member

    Sep 26, 2004
    off the purple line
    I have to agree with my PSG comrade. There's no way Madrid is moving Owen given his form. Of course, Owen's major problem is that he scores in bunches (great when he's on but brutal when he's off). I remember a stat that was provided on Fox Sports World Report last year that Owen has a tremendous rate of goals per game but if that's broken down you find a lot of multiple goal games and goals during hot streaks but then there are these long long gaps when he doesn't score at all. So, his average is high but that average is the product of very hot streaks. (I would use statistical terms if I knew how to apply them here--mean, medium, etc.) None of that is to say that I wouldn't want Owen playing for Roma. But this report would seem to be pure speculation; the media is creating stories. On the other end of the speculation spectrum, Paul Bream (sp?) Turner noted during today's Real match that Owen might be replacing Ronaldo in the starting lineup. I don't know if this is true, but it would seem that Morientes is the odd man out if Madrid is looking to move a striker. And why would they want to swap Morientes for Cassano? Morientes doesn't seem to be crying about not playing; Cassano would cry about this. Who would Cassano replace? He's not going to score more than Owen or Ronaldo. Raul seems to be untouchable. Take care.
     
  23. bobarino

    bobarino New Member

    Feb 11, 2004
    U.S.A.
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Your Real scenario is disappointing, but very logical. I would love to see Owen grow his hair long, start talking with his hands and join Montella up front. I did read this morning that Chelsea is talking about buying C(ass)ano in January for $30M to replace Mutu. Roma would then use that money to finally sign Taddei to improve our midfield. It's a shame that C(ass)ano has emerged from a promising Euro 04 as a cancerous primadonna. I don't even think Capello can manage this meathead. I say ciao Antonio and let's keep building on the improvements we've made in our last two matches.
     
  24. danielmak

    danielmak Member

    Sep 26, 2004
    off the purple line
    Well said. I am certainly disappointed that Cassano came back from the Euros thinking he was Pele but it is what it is. You're right that we've been making improvements and these improvements have happened without Cassano on the pitch; we'll be fine without him.

    But I have to say that I'm not buying the Chelsea claims. Because Chelsea spent big they are tossed around when it comes to any (or every) transfer. Mourhino does not seem to be the kind of guy who's going to put up with Cassano's antics. Look at Mutu's general benching (even prior to the cocaine scandal) because of his constant mouthing off during the preason (claims that he was going to Juve if he didn't get respect caused him to be relegated to the B team).

    BTW I don't know if anyone here has been watching Chelsea's matches of late but Robben is the bomb. I noted on the PSG list that Robben could be the next Zidane and each time I see him play that opinion is confirmed; he controls the midfield like nobody else going these days (well I guess Ronaldhino would be on par). If only Roma had the 12 million pounds to purchase Robben last year, we would be pushing Juve. Given this guy's upside $12 million seems like nothing (of course it's not my money). Take care.
     
  25. jec1

    jec1 Member

    Sporting Clube de Portugal
    Portugal
    Aug 27, 2004
    Los Angeles ATM
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    sell! hes just a hazard waiting to be washed up. kid can score but needs a different team to excel. change is always good.
     

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