"But can he win MLS?" - The Jose Mourinho Thread

just because he acts like a philosopher in public, doesn't mean he hasn't ever chased referees down the tunnel, even as a director. If there's one thing to dislike, it's the "i am perfect and define what others are supposed to be doing".

Mourinho is a fantastic coach, and most of all, our coach. Valdano can keep his remarks and attacks to himself. Everybody is fantastic but Mourinho. Diego Simeone? Magnificent guy and coach. Pep Guardiola? He reinvented football.

It's not like it's a new thing anyway (the Benitez-Mourinho rant back when Chelsea - Liverpool played for example), but if he doesn't like Mourinho, he can at least respect him.

 

He didn't say anything that somebody hasn't mentioned here. He's a respected figure around football and a club legend, and the media is going to be interested in his opinion. You can choose not to read it, that's up to you. Btw, it's quite funny and ironic you mention the ""i am perfect and define what others are supposed to be doing" as something to dislike about Valdano...

What in this quote that he said was disrespectful to Mourinho in any way?

 

He is selling his affiliation to the club as his business card. he played for us at the end of his career, and coached us for about 2 years. The rest of the time he's been in the office. So when he's selling his 25 years in the club as an argument, he should also mention that players like Ronaldo have already played more games for Real Madrid than he did, and Mourinho has coached us longer than he did.

Great man and everything, but let's step on the breaks for a second.

Please don't try to pretend you're silly. The whole argument is "should Real Madrid criticize referee decisions or not?" lately. Considering Iker has criticized the referee in two matches in a row, Valdano must mean that Iker does not "defend the constitutional values of this club". This is actually the first thing i thought. Iker lost his mind during the Manchester City match, and this guy sits and says "we should defend the constitutional values of the club, the result is not as important".

 

So you criticize Del Bosque for not showing his affiliation to the club, but you question why Valdano is showing his? I guess you can't win here.

He's speaking about the constant protesting. Mourinho didn't start protesting and making up excuses lately, Mourinho is the king of excuses. And in regards to anybody else who protested, the same goes to them, and I've said this a 100 times before. With that said, if the coach tells the team to quit whining and bitching, they would stop.

 

Del Bosque never sold his opinion as "i am at Real Madrid all my life, therefore, what i say is right". There is a difference to showing affiliation, and using it support your argument.

His problem isn't the complaining or excuses (he knows he's tried to talk himself out of everything and anything in the past), it's about his messages about Mourinho that come every few days.

Seriously, if Mourinho was such a horrible man, why didn't he step out at his arrival? If firing del Bosque was so horrible, why didn't he instantly disagree and step down instead of saying "well, i was wrong, but back then, even though it was not only me, we believed"

If Valdano saying his opinion is A OK, why should Mourinho not say his opinion? Why is Valdano the man to declare what is right for Madrid or not, as if the players who have strong emotional ties to the club (Arbeloa for example), who defend their coach are not doing the right thing?

At the end of the day, even you can notice that the man is bitter and enjoying his moment in the spotlight while we're doing bad. If he'd talk about the same stuff during the title celebrations, people would see him as a joke. When he's doing it at the situation we're in now, everybody listens, because he knows what people want him to deliver.

 

When did he "sell" his opinion as that? You choose to read it as that.

I never said I agree with everything he's said. If you even go back to the first post of mine you quoted, did I not say some of the stuff he's said were bitter?

Because Valdano is not employed by the club, and Mourinho and all the players are. If Valdano said this while he was still employed by the club, he would have received huge backlash.

 

Then why even mention it? Is there any other reason to mention the length of his affiliation with the club, other than to give his voice more authority?

 

I didn't see him mentioning it in this interview.

So I guess you must think that Mourinho is also giving his voice more authority when he self-proclaims himself as the "Special One" or the "Only One" or raves about the number of titles he's won here and in England and in Italy...

 

I didn't see him mention Barcelona's "loser mentality" when he was acting like Guardiola invented football. He uses the "you're acting like Barcelona" more as an insult to Mourinho and people inside the club that support him more than anything else.

Of course he does. Mourinho uses his titles and success, Valdano the fact that he was employed by the club quite long. I don't agree with everything Mourinho says, far from it, but Valdano's preachy way of defining what's right is quite annoying, especially considering that while he's employed by the club he only uses his mouth in one direction.

Working with the club and we sign Ronaldo: "Ronaldo is incredible, i've never seen a player like him in my life"
This month: "The only way Ronaldo can win the best player award is if people are bored of giving it to Messi"

Spot the difference!

 

Did you buy the calendar? Seems hilarious and disturbing?