Bush Won't Testify Alone, But Neither Did Clinton

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Ian McCracken, Apr 28, 2004.

  1. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
    Club:
    SS Lazio Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Bush Won't Testify Alone, But Neither Did Clinton

    The White House press corps has got its collective knickers in a twist over President Bush's plans to testify with Vice President Dick Cheney before the 9/11 Commission on Thursday.

    "That's so they can keep their stories straight," sneer the pundits, with some even joking that Bush is Cheney's ventriloquist's dummy.

    But wait. When ex-President Clinton testified before the Commission three weeks ago, he wasn't alone either.

    Though most of the press continues to pretend he handled the grilling solo, according to Time magazine in a report the next day, Clinton was accompanied by his White House counsel Bruce Lindsey and his National Security Advisor Sandy Berger.
     
  2. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
    Cincilluminati
    Club:
    Los Angeles Sol
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    That was easy.

    By the way, loved one of the ads they have on their front page:

    http://www.goodpersontest.com/

    Needless to say, I didn't pass.
     
  3. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I woulda passed, if only I had just lied a teesy bit, that's all I needed.
     
  4. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Hasn't Sandy Berger already testified? And where in that article does it say that they're both testifying at the same time?
     
  5. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan AN INTERVIDUAL

    Apr 8, 2002
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    What a ********hole shity excuse for a test; I really cannot stand it.
     
  6. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Clinton did not testify jointly with Berger and Lindsey, as Berger provided his own testimony. Clinton also did not limit his testimony to one hour; he gave the Commission four hours, and told them they could have as much time as they wanted. Clinton is not the person who withheld documents from the Commission, refused to allow his national security advisor to testify on "national security" grounds, or cut a deal to limit all future meetings between the Commission and any of his Cabinet members.

    Other than all that, yeah, Clinton and Bush are exactly alike on this.
     
  7. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
    Club:
    SS Lazio Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Did you read the two articles? They both clearly state that Berger and Lindsey were with Clinton.

    It's not like he has anyplace to go.
     
  8. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you comprehend English? "Were with" does not mean "testified jointly". They sat there as Clinton answered the questions.

    By the way, nice nitipicking. No comments on the "Berger provided his own testimony. Clinton also did not limit his testimony to one hour; he gave the Commission four hours, and told them they could have as much time as they wanted. Clinton is not the person who withheld documents from the Commission, refused to allow his national security advisor to testify on "national security" grounds, or cut a deal to limit all future meetings between the Commission and any of his Cabinet members"? What, none of those issues helped you feel better about yourself?
     
  9. John Galt

    John Galt Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    Atlanta
    I tried lying. But I still failed.
     
  10. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
    In the doghouse
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ian to post next goofy Newsmax article in 72 hours

    Ian, don't you ever get tired of posting inaccuracies and then having them decisively refuted by the first person who comes along with the facts?

    Maybe you should seek other sources of information than Newsmax and Michael Savage. There's a whole wide world out there, Ian. You don't have to be afraid of it. Discover it. Learn something. At the very least, you might no longer be in such close competition with Manny for the title of Politics Village Idiot.
     
  11. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At least Clinton did it under oath with a written transcript kept. When Bush and Cheney testify, it will not be under oath and without any record of the meeting. Clinton had nothing to hide. Does Bush? Does Cheney?
     
  12. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    Does the pope $h?t in the woods...er, I mean, does the pope wear a funny hat?
     
  13. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Nice test.

    anger = murder? I guess Carlos Ruiz is responsible for hundreds of thousands of murders at this point.

    That is as ridiculous as saying,

    VP = White House Counsel.

    :)
     
  14. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    I thought everything Bill Clinton did was wrong, so why is Bush emulating the Greatest President Since World War II?
     
  15. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    How dare a someone, when testifying under oath, have their lawyer present? How dare he?!?

    If I had to give testimony in traffic court I'd take my lawyer with me.
     
  16. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    It is a trick test. Nobody can pass. I was cracking up at the questions, though, considering that this is a thread about President Clinton. :D
     
  17. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    It was funny. It even laid a guilt trip on you if you tried to fudge the results.

    But what's their point? I'm a bad person, OK. I'm sorry. I'll try to do better, OK God? What? That's not good enough? I gotta invite Jesus into my heart? What kinda neo-hippy garbage is that? Alright, whatever. Door's open, c'mon in Jesus, just wipe the mud off your sandals first. What? You don't wanna come in? Yeah, I know its a beautiful day, but ferchrissa....eh, ooops, damn. Oh great, what do I do now?
     
  18. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    I read the title of this thread, and I just imagine my Grandma saying, "now George, if all the other little presidents jump off a cliff, are you going to as well."

    :D
     
  19. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is the goofiest crap ever out of this WH....

    Bush said it was important for him and Cheney to appear together so that commission members could "see our body language... how we work together."

    "See our body language"? Who are they now, Siegfried and Roy? Does Bush wipe Cheney's ass clean after a good dump in the bathroom, too?
     
  20. tcmahoney

    tcmahoney New Member

    Feb 14, 1999
    Metronatural
    Fixed. Although it probably doesn't matter.
     
  21. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that my way is more likely. Word is that Cheney likes being "serviced".
     
  22. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
    Club:
    SS Lazio Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Do you actually believe the crap that you post? They "sat" there while Clinton answered. What a bunch of tripe. Who brings their legal counsel to a fact-finding discussion? I'll tell you who, guilty people, used car salesmen, and impeached former presidents. And, by the way, Bush spoke to the committee for over 3 hours so maybe you'll see fit to cease with the "one hour" nonsense, although I suspect not.
     
  23. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
    Club:
    SS Lazio Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Re: Ian to post next goofy Newsmax article in 72 hours

    Feel free to chime in on what "facts" you think Time Magazine got wrong.
     
  24. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    George W. Bush: Four hours for the Daytona 500, but only one hour for the 9/11 Commission.
     
  25. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
    In the doghouse
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Ian to post next goofy Newsmax article in 72 hours

    And your newsmax article? And your attempt to create a false equivalnce between Bush and Clinton? Others have already eviscerated your sad argument, as usual. Go read their posts. I'd think you'd get tired of having your arguments blown into charred, smoking rubble by now, but you just keep coming back for more.
     

Share This Page