Bush Tax Cut takes hit in Senate

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by csc7, Mar 25, 2003.

  1. csc7

    csc7 New Member

    Jul 3, 2002
    DC
    Senate approved 51-48 an amendment to the Budget resolution cutting the Bush tax cut to $350 b and diverting the other half of the tax cut funding to social security.

    The vote doesn't kill the $700 b tax cut but means any tax cuts beyond $350 b would require 60 votes in the Senate. For those opposed to any tax cuts, these doesn't fully achieve your goals, but it does mean that the largest tax cut will likely be $350 b (could get increased in the conference committee after both chambers pass the bill).

    For those favoring the Bush plan, it makes it VERY hard (if not impossible) to get anything that approaches the $700 b mark.
     
  2. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Well that's good to hear, personally I believe that should scrap it all together and use some of it to fund the war and the rest can either go to reducing the budget or increasing spending on some programs.
     
  3. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    How the F can Bush seriously propose a tax cut the day after he announces the war is going to cost at least $75 billion?

    How are we supposed to pay for it AND cut taxes?
     
  4. joseph pakovits

    joseph pakovits New Member

    Apr 29, 1999
    fly-over country
    Good ol' Republican borrow and spend! Who cares about fiscal responsibility when it's our grandkids who go bankrupt trying to pay the bill? We'll all be dead by then so spend like a drunken sailor, George!
     
  5. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    I don't think it's Bush proposing a tax cut, but merely an extension of the cuts that were passed last year. Wasn't it supposed to last for a few years?
     
  6. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
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    Hey, it's just more evidence that the only real difference between Democrats and Republicans is the word that comes before "...and spend."

    With Democrats that word is "tax." With Republicans that word is "borrow."
     
  7. csc7

    csc7 New Member

    Jul 3, 2002
    DC
    the tax cut was a mix of new taxes and extending the tax cuts from the first bush tax cut.

    he didn't propose it today, the Senate budget had included the tax cuts determining funding levels for FY04. it basically left a hole in the budget for the 700 b tax cut and that hole just shrunk to 350 b.
     
  8. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
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    I say let the oil companies pay for it. Maybe then Dumbya can give another *wait-for-it* ... tax cut.
     
  9. monop_poly

    monop_poly Member

    May 17, 2002
    Chicago
    Whoops. Forgot about dividend exclusion didn't you. Also, rate cuts are an acceleration of cuts that were supposed to be phased in over a longer period. And other stuff.

    I'm waiting for the growth factor coming out of Middle East revitalization that will magically wipe away piled-up deficits.

    Republican finance fantasyland ... David Stockman, where art thou?
     
  10. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
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    > I'm waiting for the growth factor coming out of
    > Middle East revitalization that will magically wipe
    > away piled-up deficits.

    It'll happen, but right now it is a race to see if they will take place before the next election.
     
  11. cossack

    cossack Member

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    Mar 5, 2001
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    Right now Bush Jr. needs the war done by the end of the year to even have a go at the election. The presidential election cycle will be an accelerated version of the Johnson and Nixon years.
     
  12. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
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    Someone in the Bush Administration has been playing with the Laffer Curve again.
     
  13. cossack

    cossack Member

    Loons
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    Mar 5, 2001
    Minneapolis
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    Minnesota United FC
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    Here's a pretty empirical look at Bush's fiscal policy:

    While President Bush is obviously aware of the benefits and the need to cut taxes as a way to trigger economic growth, the government continues to expand, bureaucratic programs blossom, and talk of eliminating entire government departments is a distant memory. No, Bush is no Reagan. And despite the self-proclaimed party of limited government controlling the White House and the Congress, it continues to move further and further away from the limited government envisioned by our founding fathers.
     

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