Bush Anti-Abortion Policy Closes African Health Clinics

Sure it's sad that these places closed but the fact of the matter is it's not a good thing that they are totally depended on American funds to operate.


Also Dubya stopped this funding two and a half years ago and they are only now closing, doesn't make much sense. Somebody has an agenda.

 

Too bad, I guess when they re-open they'll have to think twice about murdering innocent babies.

 

He promised one thing to Americans and another thing to Africans.

Which one of these two groups vote for President of the USA?

Besides, shouldn't you all be happy to see a politician actually keep a promise? It should come to no surprise that Bush is pro-life.

Now, don't get me mixed up with the pro-life movement. I never really took a stance on the issue, but loaned a friend $300 so his girlfirend could afford and get an abortion. Years later, my wife lost (miscarriage) two of our own children. Sad for us, but true.

I can't divorce this thinking because I was raised Roan Catholic.

God.
Have I paid for my sin yet?

It reminds me of the difference between Catholics and Protestants...A Protestant is a Catholic without the guilt.

Anyway, there is a supposed distinction between Church (any church) and State in the USA.

In Peru, where my wife is from and my family is from, the old President Fujimori was told by the Roman Catholic Church to stop his campaign of birth control in the state funded medical centers.

In a nation where poverty runs close to the numbers of Roman Catholics (Catholics = 87% at last glance) in the nation, why add to the population when you can't support it?

Should poor people miss out on the sex?

Yea, it is easy to say, don't have kids and use those "natural" methods, but how can you without proper education?

That said, what role should the US have in overall population controls? China is an extreme example. But, the centers themselves are one thing. The Africans need these centers, but you can seperate HIV and birth control.

Even as Magic Johnson was not telling the truth when he promoted condoms as safe sex, if you know anything about the virus, a provolactive rubber is not a safe way to get your freak on.

 

This cynical, hypocritical move occured on - what? - Bush's second day in office? The lack of news coverage and absence of controversy were clear indicators that this bastard might be a hell of a lot smarter than people had given him credit for. His real unheralded skill has been the ability to pander to the Christian right without arousing the ire of the average American. Bush has exhibited real talent in that respect.

 

Where's your adopted black baby, you hypocrite?

 

Duh, stop talking about abortion and get your funding back. Voila. Idiots. Their true agenda IS abortion, that's their problem.

 

If you hate freedom so much why don't you just move to Russia?

But seriously, abortion is their agenda? You're joking, right?

 

Why else wouldn't they stop talking about it.

Besides, wtf does abortion have to do with AIDS?

 

According to Gallup 42% of Americans define themselves as pro-life rather than pro-choice. Hardly the wacko Christian fundamentalist fringe.

 

I just heard this "gag rule" discussed on the BBC...

As person representing an organization in Zambia (I think it was the Hillary Fyfe referred to in DoctorJones' post above) said that there has been an increased number of back-door abortions in her country because funding has been taken away from organizations such as hers (which does not provide abortions itself) to disseminate information about natural family planning and abstinence as a result of the gag rule.

Again, abortion is brought up as a possbility, but seems to be de-emphasized. But because Bush doesn't want them to bring it up at all, funding is cut off.

Onward you g****mn Christian soldiers.

 

Look, all they have to do is shut their friggin mouth about abortion. This president is pro-life, why would he send money to advocate something he is against? If they need funding, perhaps the European socialists can help them out.

 

I'm 19 years old.

BTW regarding your sig, I'm pretty sure I've seen that somewhere.

 

Plenty, when 30-40% of newborns born to HIV positive women are already HIV positive. And those who do manage to avoid becoming infected will soon be orphaned, because nobody in Africa can afford the medication. AIDS can be passed to a child before, during and after childbirth (via nursing).

So yeah, I guess we are doing these kids a favor by ensuring they are born with a painful, terminal disease into an orphaned childhood of poverty.

 

I know. Maybe when you get off the parents' meal ticket in a few years, you'll be better suited to tell a 19-year-old rape victim with AIDS and two babies already (and there being a 50% chance that she'll die before the year's end) that she just needs to buck up and squeeze another runt out into her clusterfucked world because you believe in the holy sanctity of the fetus.

But I tell you what, Alex: 5-10 years down the road when you're ready for your hot wife to bear you a beautiful strong white son, prove that you REALLY believe in the sanctity of the fetus by going to Africa and adopting a puny black one. Until then, you're a pampered college kid without a clue about the world.

 

*#*#*#*#, man, you won't find me encouraging abortion, much less forcing it on someone. I'm just saying, I can see why someone would get one.

 

Because he promised to eradicate AIDS in Africa? As it stands so far, Bush is the first Western leader in history to purposely shut down AIDS clinics.

You can't find Bin Laden, you can't find Saddam, you've lost more U.S.jobs than any President since the Great Depression, you've screwed the pooch in Iraq, you're behind in the polls to a hypothetical Democrat, and now you're shutting down AIDS clinics in Iraq.

Bravo, moron.

 

This was on NPR just yesterday iirc.

http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1444263

 

It'll all be cool because we're going to teach them to call Alex "Daddy."

 

You misspelled "taxpayers'".

Does her situation suck? Undoubtedly. Is it the baby's fault? Absolutely not.

Adopting a child is actually something I'd like to do at some point, and I could care less what race the child is (I don't know anybody who's adopted a kid from Africa, but I definitely wouldn't rule out adopting a kid from China or Vietnam or a black kid from the US).

 

Only the ones that look like Beyonce.

 

I used to be clueless as to how Bush could have ever been elected President.

 

1. This was well publicized.
2. Bush has given the Christian right (or in my case the Gore-voting Christian middle-left) very little on abortion. I expected a Right to Life amendment proposal offered on principle. Silly me to think he might be principled.