Burn in Last Place

It looked like the hunger was there early but the effort resulted in a gassed team late. Mile high makes it worse.

 

whats even worse is that Chicago could make the playoffs and we could miss it. Thats fair...

 

I find it funny that people want to hang a coach after a year.

 

I agree. I like most of what Colin has done this year. I'm sure there are a few things he'd like to get a second chance at, but doesn't everyone have a few of those. The boys are playing more as a team this year.

Sure there have been a few games where the team didn't perform well or had mental lapses. The head coach is ultimately responsible for the result of the team, but it's hard to blame CC for Jason or EJ not finishing or unmarked players in the box.

I think Colin has earned a little more time at the helm.

 

If the Burn had won and were in 2nd place no one would be asking for Clarkes job. They only do that sort of thing in LA.

 

I'm tending to be most unhappy with this myself. I keep looking at the stadings, and if it were a single table for playoffs (like was done one year, and I think is a great idea), Dallas would currently be ahead of Chicago. Meaning that there are actually three teams in MLS worse than Dallas.

But I guess that's irrelevant. Since that's not the way MLS is doing things.

 

There's a baffled jury still out, somewhere...

The Burn have Brad Davis, last year's point leader and fan MVP sitting on the bench.. Quill, a player who replaces the leading point producer, playing as inconsistent as he was when traded.. Talley pushing up too much like his counterpart Gbandi.. Gbandi, who likes to get in on the offense, but doesn't provide any - and doesn't provide much defense either.. Reyes, who is known to be skilled and speedy - sitting, while Gbandi (and the team's playoff chances) is gambled on..

If the Burn make the playoffs, fine; CC is in. But...

 

Wah Wah Wah.
Give it up. Really.
It is fair.
The Burn know their task at the beginning of the year. They have to finish above 5th in the west to make the playoffs. If they don't complete that task, that was known to them at the beginning of the season, it's on them. Looking at the East standings is just an pathetic divertion attempt for the team and for the fans, to escape reality.

Even while I do agree that the west is a little stronger,
1) The East ties a bunch more (42-34), which affects point distribution.
2) Teams aren't playing balanced schedules. If everyone was playing each other the same amount of times, your point would have validity. However, they don't, so your's doesn't. They are up against the teams that have the same balanced schedule that they do for a playoff spot.

I don't really want to hijack this into a ridiculous single table thread, but that was the only point in your post. There are pluses/minuses to each; the bright side: the addition of more teams with still 8 playoff spots will help you people get through it though. (FTR, I think an AL/NL 32-team type of scenario (before interleague play) is the long-term goal of MLS, and parity will loosen when MLS is 18 teams strong). This argument isn't such a big deal when 1/2 or more of the teams miss the playoffs.

No offense, as you are a Burn fan, but, even as a fan of this current last place team myself, this is just misplaced whining IMO.

 

I don't know, I understand they knew what they gotta do in the West but it still bothers me that Chicago, NE, or DC is going to make the playoffs over Dallas possibly.

 

You're welcome to say what you want - as always. And sure, there are questions.

But keep in mind, with what the Burn had to go through, I think it isn't ludicrous for me to say that CC did a good job of revamping this team and getting them in a better position this year, and that firing him now would be a mistake.

Or the short way of saying that - you can say he should be fired if they don't make the playoffs, as long as I can say that I think you're wrong and going off half-cocked.

Brad Davis - that just didn't work out. CC tried him in the middle, and Brad couldn't handle it - much like Martino couldn't handle it in Columbus. And Eric not being able to handle the left, well, that was problematic.

I think the biggest issue this team has/had is that they have an allocation currently going unused - because their really isn't one to use it on right now. CC hopefully will find one in the winter who can come over here and fill (hopefully) the void in the middle with Simo. That and give Gibbs and Jolley time to gel, and hopefully figure out something on the outside fullback spots.

CC is vulnerable on GBandi, to be sure. But you know what, if the guy gets it together in time for next season, then CC looks like a genius. All of those folk complaining about not playing younger guys - who is GBandi but a young guy? And look at the mistakes he is making, and how worked up we're getting. (Yes, I include myself in that).

So personally, I think expecting more than an improvement in this team - which there clearly is - is unrealistic. I see improvement. I have my worries, but my worries do not outweigh my hope. (Yet.)

But that is what healthy discussion is all about. And mine is just one fellow's opinion.

 

Personally, I give him next season. If they aren't one of the top four teams in the league next year, and comes up with some hardware other than Brimstone, then I'd probably be on board with a sacking.

But not now. Especially when the jury is out on whether this team is going to miss the playoffs. (Clearly, though, they are inconsistent enough that I doubt they will got on a streak and win it.) But I still don't think it warrants running the coach.

 

Heck, C-Bus is now in first and they've been trying to run their coach since he got there. I'd hate for this to descend into the depths of the C-Bus board.

Kill DC, and all will be forgiven... for now.

 

Take this question with a grain of salt....
what were all of those coaches' records the following years?

 

k, thanks. From memory or is it on MLSnet somewhere?

 

Not neccessarily in the long run if you're Dallas.
We would not make the playoffs, however even though we may be better than 3 Eastern teams, we would get the all powerful "Yu Suck" allocation and they would not.

Then we might get moved to the Eastern Div and would really have an advantage over those three teams. Better team and an extra, high ranking allocation.

Of course, I'd rather be in the playoffs. But our situation could be lose (not in playoffs) ...win (U Suc allocation)...then win again (moved to East). Better than a kick in the arce and no recourse.

 

I'll take your word for it and I think you make great points. You also forgot to add Dave Sarachan, who made MLS Cup in his first year at the Fire helm.

 

Believe me when I say I wish I had the £££££££££ to buy Dallas from HSG. I understand you love for Dallas, but it is not like last yr where everyone just gave up after....oh say the 2 month of the season? So quit pressing the panick button or you might start ending up like those pricks from DC who like to remind everyone of their past glory days. Think of Dallas like they are Bolton, a team always fighting instead of sprs who are 43 yrs and still counting.

 

in the 77th min. SJ and Columbus are tied so i guess thats not all that bad

 

yessss sanneh scores for columbus in stoppage time 1-0 columbus

 

I nearly posted that very prediction!! Wow, I must have ESPN!!