Bundesliga and the rest: Domestic and European competition discussion

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Unfortunately the reason he transferred to West Ham was thanks to Nagelsmann persuading him to do so, because according to Nagelsmann PL>BL.
     
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  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    yeah just dumb on Nagelsmann's part where he basically "blackmails" him.

    like crazy that Fullkrug has amazing SNT record and also great record in WC22 and EC24 where he impresses in 2/2 and even then he made it seem like

    1-if you want to get called up to SNT, EPL>>>>>1BL
    2-Havertz your main CF competition is in EPL if you want to overtake him, also go EPL....

    its sad how Flick+Nagelsmann because they don't see Fullkrug as Elite-World Class they put him down and he has to overperform just to get chances.......

    like imagine thinking a garbage EPL club is better than a 1BL CL club, dumb as ********. All of us bashed the HUGE downgrade, what shit advice from Nagelsmann part.

    ironic because due to constant injury issues of both Havertz+Fullkrug, Kleindienst in 1BL without any European footy is now 1st choice with NT.

    so why the overdemanding towards Fullkug but lax towards Kleindienst or Undav???
     
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  3. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It was also partly due to the fact that Fulkrug felt under appreciated at Dortmund, with them apparently prioritising Guirassy signing last summer and seeing him as first choice. I don't see how that has in any way improved the team.
     
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  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    LOL, when was last time a Brazilian player really panned out in 1BL???

    BVB flop Couto gone again?
    Borussia Dortmund is apparently not averse to offloading Yan Couto in the summer. According to a report in Bild, the Black and Yellows would be "grateful" to find a buyer. So far, the right winger, on loan from Manchester City, has completely fallen short of expectations.

    The obligation to buy the Brazilian international (four caps) was reportedly triggered last year. However, given his mixed performances, it seems unlikely that BVB will be able to recoup the €25 million paid for Couto.
    https://www.fussballtransfers.com/a4863741295557378221-bvb-flop-couto-schon-wieder-weg

    BVB seems to also want to get rid of Reyna, Sabitzer etc.
     
  5. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    This what BVB get for their lack of ambition.
     
  6. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Dortmund really have been laughable on the transfer front. Already trying to offload recent signings like Ozcan, Sabitzer and Couto. Anton is getting a lot of criticism too.

    On top of that players like Gittens & Reyna who they were hoping to sell for big money are likely to be sold at a fraction of that.
     
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  7. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Nagelsmann simply realised Dortmund are shite
     
  8. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    So both Bayern and Dortmund are eliminated from the CL, although both, in particular BVB performed well in the second legs.

    Despite their injuries you really feel Bayern missed an opportunity to advance, yes they missed a number of chances but for me the biggest issue is that they are too easy to score against. In both matches they conceded naive goals almost straight after scoring, you cannot do that and expect to advance.
     
  9. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I'm rather pissed off about BVB's performance in the second leg.

    Seriously, where the fvck was this BVB team last week?

    Now it's up to Eintracht Frankfurt to salvage the BL's pride in Europe. I wouldn't mind them winning their third UEFA Cup/EL title.
     
  10. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The second leg was good. We won 3-1 and scored all the goals. the issue was the first leg losing 0-4. That is what fucked us.
     
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  11. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
    Ideally Dortmund get their stuff together and finishes their Buli campaign with enough points to qualify for a Europa or at least Conference league spot. It's no CL, but EL would do the club good with a deep run and a solid chance to win the trophy. Falling out of any European competition next season would be an absolute disaster
     
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  12. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I'd much rather BVB secure a EL spot, and then aim to win it. The EL, alongside the UEFA Super Cup, are the only two trophies missing for BVB to complete the intrernational trophy set, and since BVB are playing the Club World Cup this summer, a deep run would give them a monetary cushion next season, and since nobody seems to care about it, why not go all the way and win it? It might be a tin pot trophy, but you have to start somewhere if you want your team to have a winning mentality.

    Definitely, I'd much rather see my club in the EL than the Conference League, since the Conference League is the Paupers' tournament.
     
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  13. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
    Was a close one but Frankfurt now eliminated from EL after losing at home to Spurs
     
  14. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
    Koeln leap frog HSV for the current top spot in 2BL
     
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  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    LMAO, another failed season for Bayern in the Kane era, that's now 2/2 seasons of mediocrity.

    imagine winning 1 trophy aka 1BL in 2 seasons, LOL.

    good for Kane that Bayern will win 1BL and thus his 1st ever career trophy, LULZ. He's an idiot better to be EPL All time Scorer than to win 1BL titles, he came for nothing and he's a serial chocker like all Pengland players.

    Roy Makaay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kane

    the D of Bayern is also atrocious, shitty transfers and mediocre coach on top of all that.

    also people never learn stop playing Kimmich at D he's mediocre in M, LOL.
     
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  16. rj123

    rj123 Member+

    The team with the most German NT players
    Germany
    Nov 21, 2010
    Winnipeg, MB
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Something that puzzles me is if Bayern D is so bad why do they have the least goals conceded in the BL? Granted its looked like a clown show with Upa and Davies injured and Kim at about 60% but still not too bad.

    I wonder if Kimmich would have developed better skills as a DM if he didn't play with a team that had on average 70% possession.
     
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  17. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Looooooool
     
  18. saj7866

    saj7866 Member+

    Dortmund
    Germany
    May 10, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Wont surprise me if Bayern raid Dortmund for Schlotterbeck. BVBFNM won't like this. But I can see it happening. Schlotterbeck would be the ball playing world class Cb Bayern are craving for.
     
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  19. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Honestly, Schlotterbeck doesn't seem like the sort of guy that would agree to a move like that. He seems pretty committed to Dortmund, and has been open in the press about how he identifies with the club etc. Is seen as future captain.

    Bayern are linked with Thiaw, but whoever they go for I hope that they finally sign a German CB again.
     
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  20. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I thought the same of Goetze. Especially after the interview he did 2 weeks before the leak.
     
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  21. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Schlotterbeck is injured long-term, so I suspect he won't attract interest from Bayern until the end of next season at the very least.
     
  22. BandB

    BandB Member

    Bayern Munich
    Germany
    Nov 30, 2020
    Kompany is demanding too much from his ideal CB, it's may be becaused he was the reputable CB. Not easy to find CB with good pace accurate tackle strong in the air also can make a good progressive long pass.

    Kim is a monster if he doesn't have to defend alone as the last man 30 meters away from his goal. Instead if you play a true 6 like Paulinha to protect your CB or slow down the counter attack. they will not need a new center back.

    So far, Kompany have not convince me as Bayern meterial may be he has another year to prove himself. All bayern fans know 1 Bundesliga cup does not mee our expectation and you lost to Inter at the Allianz.
     
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  23. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
    Holstein Kiel with a glimmer of hope in the battle for the playoff spot vs Heidenheim for the playoff spot as they beat Augsburg
     
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  24. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    So, Hawwy finally celebrates his first ever title, though frankly I would have much rather he'd done it last summer (seriously, fvck Spain).
     
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  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    he's a tap in and PK machine, LOL.

    and I recall when Pengland fans trolling in here calling him better than Klose, LMAO.

    pretty pathetic how everyone online is celebrating his 1st ever trophy. Amazing the usual champs Bayern won the league.......:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     

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