Bundesliga and the rest: Domestic and European competition discussion

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I'm not holding my breath on the world witnessing another German footballer winning the Ballon d'Or in the near future or ever again for that matter, because as we all know, German footballers have nowhere near the same media traction as other nationalities.
     
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  2. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I guess if we had won the Euro, maybe Wirtz or Kroos might have been in the top 5.

    Real throwing a tantrum about this not being awarded to Vinicius is hilarious. I mean a Spanish player born in Madrid who played a key role in winning a major title for the Spanish NT has won it instead, you would think they at the very least be diplomatic, understand why and congratulate him not cry about it lol.
     
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  3. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  4. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
    Dortmund continue to look like trash

     
  5. Collected

    Collected Member+

    Jul 19, 2014
    Who the hell thought it was a good idea to appoint Sahin? It doesn’t make sense to me. To be fair, a lot of the players aren’t that great either but they should be doing better. The recruitment has been poor and needs to be addressed.
     
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  6. Collected

    Collected Member+

    Jul 19, 2014
    Now that Messi and Ronaldo are no longer there, maybe there is a chance for a German player to win it. Musiala due to his Messi-esque dribbling style has a lot of fans. If Bayern win the Champions League or Germany win the World Cup or Euro, I think he might win the Ballon d’Or. Wirtz also has a chance due to his attractive style of play.

    I agree with you and it’s sad that German footballers don’t have the same media traction as other nationalities. They are always underrated. A lot of people from other other countries seem to dislike Germany.
     
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  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Selke robbed!!!!
     
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  8. Dage

    Dage Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I just don't care about this award and live a better life this way. :thumbsup:
     
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  9. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
  10. Collected

    Collected Member+

    Jul 19, 2014
    Aren't Sabitzer and Malen pretty good players for the Bundesliga? Why do they need to sell them? I don't watch their matches. I had high hopes for Suele so I am a bit disappointed with the way his career has panned out. Brandt is also a solid Bundesliga player( good enough for a top 6 club). Just not elite. Who are they going to replace them with?
     
  11. Collected

    Collected Member+

    Jul 19, 2014
    It's halftime and Nicolas-Gerrit Kühn has already bagged a brace in the Champions League against his old club RB Leipzig. He must be delighted. The first goal in particular was a beautiful goal from distance. The second one was a tap-in. It's a pleasant surprise that he's a starter for a big club like Celtic. Who would have though?!

    Leipzig should be doing better. They shouldn't be losing points to Celtic.
     
  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    its not a surprise though, the skillset was always there but he just wasted too many years at big clubs like Bayern-Ajax and had too many injury/fitness issues.

    and I recall you and others wrote him off ASAP too.....ignoring that talent of players doesn't disappear if they don't make it big super fast and then everyone has different career path and to stop looking at players from foreign countries and comparing left and right.

    now linked with EPL clubs too.

    what goes around comes around, ******** Leipzig, LMAO.
     
  13. Collected

    Collected Member+

    Jul 19, 2014
    It's true. I wrote him off. Props to him for making progress in his career. Nevertheless, I still don't think he's going to be a great player for the national team or a great Premier League player but I would be happy if he proves me wrong. It's nice that he scored a brace against Leipzig but that doesn't mean he's going to be successful in a big league. Leipzig are an inconsistent team. They have 0 points from 4 games and Celtic were at home. It's good that he's linked with EPL clubs but I have my doubts that he will cut it there( maybe for a mid-table club but not for a top 6 club). He's doing well in the Scottish league but it's a weak league.
     
  14. Collected

    Collected Member+

    Jul 19, 2014
    It's the second week in a row that German clubs underperform in the CL. Leipzig lose to Celtic which is pathetic. Dortmund needed a big defensive mistake a few minutes before the end to score the winning goal against freaking Sturm Graz and apparently they didn't create much in this game. That's embarrassing. Neverkusen got destroyed 0-4 by Liverpool. It's worrying. Serie A is now ahead of us in the ranking. We are the 4th best league in the world. I know it doesn't really matter whether we're 3rd or 4th but still...
     
  15. Collected

    Collected Member+

    Jul 19, 2014
    I don't think anyone has discussed the news that Red Bull and Bernard Arnault will buy Paris FC. More and more billionaires are buying French clubs. The French league is going to get stronger in the coming years. We could become the 5th best league in the future which is sad.
     
  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #11441 Ger90, Nov 6, 2024 at 8:30 AM
    Last edited: Nov 6, 2024 at 8:36 AM
    why do you keep obsessing over Elite-Big clubs? Who cares seriously.

    when players like Leweling, Fuhrich, Kleindienst, Fullkrug, Undav etc all get called up to NT and perform and none play in big clubs and none are Elite either.

    I feel like your more obsessed with World Class-Elite players and big clubs then about players who can be useful based on skill set to NT.

    A Schurrle played for big clubs like Chelsea and BVB and was overall meh at club footy but thanks to him we won the WC14. And he was never world class or Elite but his skillset was what we needed.

    its also your obsession with such things that makes you write off players super fast too. Your obsession with comparing Germany with every rival country and if players aren't Elite at teenagers you write them off too. You also don't care that Germany and German players have different issues that others don't too.
     
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