Bundesliga and the rest: Domestic and European competition discussion

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Reus has sealed his place as the black sheep in one of the most successful generations of German footballers, who won league titles, a World Cup, a variety of CL titles with diverse clubs and the last ever Confederations Cup. All Reus has to show on the other hand are a measly two DFB-Pokals. The Eternal Pretender indeed.

    I'm probably the only BVB fan who doesn't feel the least bit sad over his departure, and friend of mine thinks trophies will now start to rain in Dortmund now that he's gone.
     
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  2. Aderthan

    Aderthan Member+

    Schwarz weiss essen
    Germany
    Nov 17, 2020
    Dortmund need a charismatic manager like Klopp or even Mourinho to change their fortune, to elevate their status as a genuine title contender again.
     
  3. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
    Looks like Reus is on his way to LA Galaxy
     
  4. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
    Wow quite the bombshell news to wake up to, Terzic and Dortmund go their separate ways

    Meanwhile in typical Bayern fashion, they're about to sign Hiroki Ito from Stuttgart
     
  5. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
  6. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Disappointing that Tah will leave to Bayern
     
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  7. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
    Bayern destabilizing their close competitors in full effect
     
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  8. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Bayern have a poor defense and they do not have a German center back which historically they had most of the times…it is logical to try and sign Tah who is great form and peak of his career
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Sure but this is why we can't have nice things.

    Even if Leverkusen want to keep their best talents and build a side that wins things over many seasons, they won't be able to because their manager and best players will be stripped out and they lack the finances to stop it.
     
  10. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    But that’s not entirely a Bayern thing…I see Dortmund is planning to sign Guirassy from Stuttgart….they are also planning to sign Anton as Hummels replacement?
    Leverkusen wants Fuhrich…how about these?
     
  11. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Sure - or Madrid take Bellingham

    But the point is we won't see a genuinely competitive league because only Bayern is resistant to this
     
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  12. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Anton also strongly linked with Leverkusen, if Tah moves on. I think Leverkusen are in a better position to absorb a couple of losses, especially given Wirtz is staying for next season, but I worry slightly for Stuttgart as they seem to be being somewhat decimated, if Ito, Anton, Fuhrich and Guirassy all leave. At least on the positive side they have made a couple of clever looking additions, Chabot is a solid signing as is Keitel who I liked at Freiburg. Woltemade is still young but impressed for Bremen in his debut 1BL season and Diehl from Koln is an exciting AM/W prospect, So I guess although not ideal to have that level in turnover they are at least reinvesting in talented German players. Hopefully they can keep Undav too.
     
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  13. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
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    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
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    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
  16. Shwass5555

    Shwass5555 Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Nov 21, 2022
    I dont think we are resistant to it. Bayern is just basically picking the best out of the rest, if we didnt do it then other top clubs will. Tah was obviously open to a move to a top club, otherwise he would have decided to stay for another season like Alonso and Wirtz.

    At least we are being civil and only taking the one player this time.......not raiding them like we did in the early 2000s when we took Ballack Ze Roberto and Lucio after they made the CL final. We decimated their team back then hence Völler absolute refusal to sell any players to Bayern as long as he was around.
     
  17. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
    Next Bayern spending spree signing on the home stretch, Palhinha agreement has basically been made
     
  18. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
    Palhinha and Olise on the way to signing for Bayern
     
  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    LOL what happened I thought foreign youth CFs are better than the Germans.


    the list of FLOP foreign youth CFs in Germany is HUGE. These clubs should integrate domestic talents.
     
  20. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
  21. Brandko

    Brandko Member+

    Dec 12, 2013
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  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    yeah I like Mainz but that was garbage to max on their part.

    reality a SHIT TON of players got into trouble by clubs and threatened with axing if they keep posting pro-Palestine posts. Some retracted otherwise would have been axed.

    such a cringe country that forces pro-Israel (nevermind all the atrocities being committed) on you or your in deep shit.

    like every club tried to make it like if your Pro-Palestine=Pro Hamas=Pro questioning Israel's right to exist (don't see why that is a big deal, since the country was founded thanks to Pengland's colonism). So they ALL send out statements defending Israel etc. More like they allow their WWII guilt to overide everything.

    Bayern too is cringe as well because they had Mazroaui being Pro-Palestine hurt the feelings of their mediocre Israeli GK, so he had to apologize, LOL.
     
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  23. Shwass5555

    Shwass5555 Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Nov 21, 2022
    While people should be free to say what they want posting "from river to the sea" was an incredibly dumb move especially for someone from his background who knows exactly what those words mean.
     
  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    LOL, Netanyahu and other Israel officials have all stated during the war the same statements themselves and got like 0 condemnation.

    so yeah its hypocrisy anyways.
     
  25. Bazi

    Bazi Member+

    Jan 15, 2009
    Wuerzburg (Germany)
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Dortmund is apparently trying hard tto get rid of Moukoko's salary. They dropped their transfer fee demands to 20M but I doubt Hamburg can pay that much.

    https://www.mopo.de/sport/fussball/...=social&utm_source=Twitter&Echobox=1721543840

    I guess the doubters were in the end proven right. There must have been a lot of info about him behind the scenes considering even Honigstein made jokes about his age on multiple occasions.
     

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