Bundesliga and the rest: Domestic and European competition discussion

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. Epitome990

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    Jun 27, 2013
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  2. Epitome990

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  3. Epitome990

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  4. Epitome990

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  5. dips82

    dips82 Member

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Is GianLuca Itter injured? I do not see him even on the bench today against Leverkusen...

    Also Henrichs again on the bench...
     
  6. Epitome990

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  8. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    LOL, Bundesliga leaders Dortmund draw a Cyprus club. Yeah Dortmund seems unlikely for a R16 appearance. EL seems to be it assuming they don't embarrass themselves and let APOEL end up 3rd.

    while RB's win and Monaco's loss means they move from 4th place to 2nd place, with 4 pts after 3 games.
     
  9. Epitome990

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    Ideally Leipzig should have conceded less goals, but it's encouraging to see them win against Porto. Especially as a young and inexperienced side.

    Meanwhile, I already knew Dortmund will be playing Europa ball but they need to get their shit together.
     
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  10. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I don't find Peter Bosz fits Dortmund. His hiring felt the same as Ancelotti to Bayern for me. Coaches that don't really fit or that aren't good enough.
     
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  12. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    LOL, the EL performance continues

    HT
    Koln 0-0 BATE
    Hertha 0-1 Zorya (Ukraine)

    well hopefully 2nd half is better...
     
  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    FT
    Koln 0-1 BATE
    Hertha 1-2 Zorya (Ukraine)

    and with that this week in Europe (Matchday 3)
    better than last time but still not great
    2 losses, 1 draw, and 2 wins

    with Dortmund heading towards EL while both Koln and Hertha seem headed out.
     
  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  15. Alex C

    Alex C Member

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    They won't be laughing when Bayern wins the CL and Dortmund wins the EL.
     
  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    even if Bayern and Dortmund somehow do win the CL and EL. It does show that in Europe it seems to be Bayern and Dortmund and that's it from Germany.

    the rest including Dortmund can't seem to compete vs Bulgaria, Belarus, Sweden, Cyprus. German clubs has more money and better league than those teams yet are flopping hard vs them.
     
  17. Alex C

    Alex C Member

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Leipzig did at least beat Porto to climb to second in their group. If they can draw in Portugal they have a shot at the round of 16.

    Bayern with Jupp can compete with most teams as can Dortmund without injuries, but even with injuries they have a strong enough squad to win the EL.

    The rest are weak and will be eliminated early unfortunately.
     
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  18. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    add a 4th win to that list.:p

    but Hoff are still 3 pts behind 2nd place and 4 pts behind 1st. Still possible, seems more possible than Hertha or Koln making it out.
     
  19. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  20. Epitome990

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    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
  21. Epitome990

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  22. Epitome990

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    With their win against Mainz today, Schalke move up in the table and at this moment are leveled with RB Leipzig for 4th place in the BL. Although of course RBL and other teams close to them like Hoffenheim, Gladbach, and Frankfurt still have their matches to play this week.

    Looks like Tedesco has done well so far in stabilizing the team, and getting them back among the top clubs in the league. Although not high scoring in their results, they have been compact and look well organized defensively.
     
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  23. Ger90

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    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think biggest question mark for Schalke if they make any Europe play would be. what to do with the highly likely absence of Goretzka and Meyer as both players seem all but done after this season. Although to a lesser degree Meyer as he seems to be struggling in terms of play and form and could use a change of location.

    but Goretzka has been huge over the last 2 seasons for them. Even in EL, he saved the day vs Gladbach in the R16, having a goal and assist as they beat them on away goals. And vs Ajax scoring a goal and once he got injured and was taken out of the game that is when things fell apart for Schalke and they lost the midfield and conceded 2 goals and were out.
     
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  24. Epitome990

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    Fwiw, looks like they've reintegrated Meyer back into the starting XI in their last 2 matches. Although he plays deeper in the midfield now, as sort of a CM/DM instead of his former position as a ten. Maybe Tedesco sees him filling the Modric or Verrati role for them. The general reviews I've read have said he did reasonably well. But overall, yes Schalke's biggest concern would be what happens if they're not able to hold onto their Goretzka and Meyer. They've already suffered considerable losses of player depth in recent years.
     
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  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    also even worse when you consider that Schalke and those 2 players dragging signing extension of their contracts could risk Schalke losing both Meyer and Goretka for free. Both are free agents this summer, if neither sign or aren't sold this Winter, you get nothing out of them. Could you imagine any club losing a player like Goretzka or one with potential like Meyer for free? Try finding other players to take their place when you make 0$ off of them.
     
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