Bundesliga and the rest: Domestic and European competition discussion

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. Collected

    Collected Member

    Jul 19, 2014
    The man behind Eintracht Frankfurt's success Ben Manga is leaving them. It's game over for Frankfurt. It was good while it lasted.
     
  2. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    What role did he have with the club?
     
  3. Collected

    Collected Member

    Jul 19, 2014
    He was their chief scout from 2016 to 2021. He was promoted to Sporting Director last season.
     
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  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    does anyone actually care about Frankfurt anyways?
    Outside of them playing in Europe I don't see anyone who actually roots for them here during 1BL season anyways.

    for me, Trapp, Knauff, Rode, Kostic were most important in that EL trophy.

    the likes of Rebic, Jovic etc won them nothing and Jovic got exposed too.
     
  5. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I just want the 2023-24 season to start so Knauff can be reincorporated into the BVB squad.
     
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  6. Collected

    Collected Member

    Jul 19, 2014
    Jovic won them €60 million. That was brilliant for them. Haller was sold for €40.0 million. A club like Frankfurt isn't expected to win any trophies.

    Ben Manga kept finding gems for Frankfurt for 6 years and eventually won the Europa League and they are now a top 6 club in Germany.

    From 2019:

     
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  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    wouldn't call coning other clubs out of money=brilliant. This is why TONS call 1BL farmer league and shit at how soooooooooooooooo many bomb outside of 1BL.

    I personally don't care about money or transfer values anyways.

    I 100% SHIT on whole dev/sell BS that Germany loves to do as well.

    also disengenous to attribute whole success to 1 person though.
     
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  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    which has been confirmed by Terzic-Dotmund.

    Bamba+Collins impressing in 1st team during Asian Tour

    Brunner impressing vs older players in U19 and has been Dortmund's U19 savior in Youth League. Konig is rated by everyone, etc.

    Dortmund could finally see more Academy players breakthrough in future.
     
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  9. Collected

    Collected Member

    Jul 19, 2014
    That's true. Let's see how they do without him next season.
     
  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    a lot of players won't be there next season anyways.

    also Club was shit under Bobic anyways and that clown is gone and now ruining Hertha.

    Krosche is one who also wanted Knauff and no Knauff and Frankfurt would never have won EL nor would they have made CL R16. It doesn't take a scout for that transfer as Knauff did play and perform for Dortmund in 1BL and was CL XI vs Citeh too.

    Glasner also deserves credit too.

    in any case, I don't really care since Frankfurt is still barely any Germans. As long as that's case the team doesn't interest me much. They could bomb and I could care less. Would rather see Freiburg make CL over them.
     
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  11. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    This is why I like Terzic so much. BVB may not be winning major trophies any time soon, but I've noticed Terzic has made sure youth academy players are integrated into the senior squad.
     
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  12. Blueberry_night

    Blueberry_night Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Aren't most of bundesliga club now barely German in starting XI? off the top of my head only Freiburg Bayern BVB Bremen and Bochum with more than 5 German starters. But even Freiburg now relatively play more foreigner compared to few years ago.
     
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  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Freiburg has had bunch of injuries but still majority German.

    Frankfurt is type of club who bunch of times only had 1-2 in XI. That is never acceptable. Even some matches with only Trapp too.

    Leipzig has more Germans due to return of Werner and that Gulasci is out for season. prior was basically only fullbacks and that's it.
     
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  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    so with Paulinho officially gone, that means 2/2 Brazil youth bombed in 1BL.

    so much for famer's league. They push for them in 1st teams, pay like $20M for Paulinho only to flop hard.
     
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  15. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Depends on the rest of the internal structure, no club is dependent on one man.

    Frankfurt do seem to be moving in the right direction in terms of reintroducing a II team and signing more young Germans.
     
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  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    if Frankfurt struggles in future will end up being due to constantly signing players we all know won't last so will then have to find neverending replacements.

    that is price one pays for whole dev/sell.
     
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  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Frankfurt II needs to jump to RL ASAP. As long as they are in 5th division, not many will get chances. Currently 1st place too.

    even newly re-introduced Magdeburg II who started in 6th division is on track for 5th division promotion.

    Karlsruher alwasy convos about bringing II back.

    like vast majority who axe II regret it later.

    Union Berlin has made an unofficial U21 mixed of U19+U17 to play friendlies vs pro clubs. As they give 0 chances in 1st and too boost dev. But issue is that the coach isn't an integration coach he's typical 2BL one. And this fake U21 isn't going to make a huge diff. But how long until they decide to bring it back? I do think some could wait to see how things go with Frankfurt and II, if they start to integrate and show something might push others.
     
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  18. rj123

    rj123 Member

    The team with the most German NT players
    Germany
    Nov 21, 2010
    Winnipeg, MB
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  19. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    And when exactly do they intend to fit in all these extra matches? Talk about overkill.
     
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  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    club world cup is dumb only clubs that matter are in Europe.

    all best South African players move to Europe and aim for CL anyways. So CL is basically the Club World Cup already.
     
  21. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    South African players?
     
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  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    South American
     
  23. rj123

    rj123 Member

    The team with the most German NT players
    Germany
    Nov 21, 2010
    Winnipeg, MB
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Greed of FIFA, that's the only reason.:mad: They want to get the kind of money that CL does.
     
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  24. Dage

    Dage Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Who cares about this Mickey mouse tourney at all? European clubs should just hand it over and don't participate.
     
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  25. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    It's been ten years since a South American club won the World Cup. European clubs are just too strong, so why bother?
     
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