Bundesliga and the rest: Domestic and European competition discussion

This kid is clinical

Erling Haaland and @Aubameyang7 are the only Dortmund players to score hat-tricks on their Bundesliga debuts 💛 pic.twitter.com/uLuFTpF9sL

— B/R Football (@brfootball) January 18, 2020

 

speaking of Haaland, his arrival has made it likely Paco will leave Dortmund, he also wants to return home. Few days ago, Bild stated that Martinez and Thiago seem very good chance to be headed out of Bayern in Summer. The Spaniard at Koln Mere is a huge flop.

Barcalone are pissed that Miranda barely plays on loan. Camacho/Morey aren't used by their clubs. Camacho seems more likely at the end of the road. Torro is a bit player at Frankfurt, Mascarell is nothing great and more and more criticism towards Martin at Mainz (let's hope J.Meier benches him in future).

LOL Spaniards in Germany.

 

Meet Erling Haaland 👋

The first player in Bundesliga history with 5️⃣ goals in his first 2️⃣ games ❗ pic.twitter.com/0GEdHlMKP7

— Bundesliga English (@Bundesliga_EN) January 24, 2020

Erling Haaland this season:

• 33 goals
• 7 assists
• 8 UCL Group Stage goals
• 5 goals in 60 Bundesliga minutes - A goal every 12 minutes

🔥🔥🔥 pic.twitter.com/VgL7nGlnDp

— EPL Bible (@EPLBible) January 24, 2020

 

the real question is how much time before Haaland leaves Dortmund? Dortmund is a club that has been nothing but a dev/selling club, which is a shame but reality. High way robbery paying $20M for Haaland and will for sure sell him for $100-200M region. Same for Sancho he isn't staying long. Will be harder to win trophies when players only stay a few seasons before leaving and none of them are even prime age. Truth Dortmund wouldn't attract prime players as all those guys don't want to play in Germany. All these foreign youngsters at Dortmund they only play at the club when young, seriously they all have same response about how Dortmund is big club and play young players which all sound like user mentality.

believe Haaland's agent already stated that he wants to play in EPL.

 

Bayern leading 2-0 HT vs Schalke.

a win for Bayern cuts Leipzig 4 pts lead to 1 pt.

 

to me, most curious to see what Leipzig looks sans Werner next season. Will they have perfect replacement or fail doing so?

 

Depends on Dani Olmo and how he integrates

 

Let see how many German in RBL starting XI next season. They barely sniff at German player. Even Klostermann somehow is not guarantee starting XI.

 

I'm also curious at how many German the club will have left come Summer time. Werner and Klostermann are both linked out, Demme has already left the club.

really only leaves Tschauner (GK #3, LOL), Halstenberg and Orban (he counts as German, league wise even if he plays for Hungary NT). I believe that's why they were interested in Gosens/Agu because they know they barely barely have Germans. Agu is not joining them.

Leipzig will look even worse than Frankfurt.......if that's possible. Will they sign 10 fraudulent pro contracts to youngsters they never intend on integrating lol. What I worry is them keeping around numerous 01s not to integrate them but for the sake of having 12 German signed. Using kids for your own disgusting benefits and let them stagnate. Makes you wonder if they will be forced to integrate 1-2 players for real? Krauss is constantly unused bench since Nagelsmann doesn't trust his 0 experience for DM.

 

Honestly speaking the problem is beyond Nagelsmann. Let's not forget this is the so called corporate club, they would play alien from Mars if possible, as long as bring profit.

 

and way too many sister clubs too and transfers between them are usually low.

still waiting for RB Africa and RB Asia, lol.

 

I hope RB Leipzig never wins anything neither 1BL, Cup or CL/EL. Nothing but a plastic club with no real identity, RB Leizpig is a clone club that is based in Germany nothing more, nothing whatsoever unique about it. Also doesn't care about domestic players either.

I dislike Frankfurt but would rather they win trophies than RB.

 

LOL

Leipzig stars slammed for flying in celebrity barber before defeat
A group of RB Leipzig stars has been slammed as 'decadent' by a senior figure at the Bundesliga leaders for bringing a celebrity barber over from England to give haircuts before their shock defeat at Eintracht Frankfurt last weekend.

Ralf Rangnick, head of sport and development soccer for the club's chief sponsors Red Bull, was left fuming after star hairdresser Sheldon Edwards was flown over by members of the squad to give haircuts at the team hotel in Frankfurt before Saturday's 2-0 defeat.

Second-half goals by Almamy Toure and Filip Kostic in Frankfurt saw Leipzig lose for the first time since October and their lead in the German league table was slashed to just a point.

Leipzig coach Julian Nagelsmann reacted by questioning whether his team wanted to win the Bundesliga title enough.

Rangnick has ripped into the group of nine players, which German daily Bild says includes regulars Yussuf Poulsen, Christopher Nkunku and Patrik Schick, for the 'decadent' pre-match haircut.

"I would have bet 100,000 euros ($110,035) that our players would not have had a star hairdresser flown in from England to have their hair done in a hotel," an angry Rangnick told reporters on Tuesday.

"I would have lost that 100,000 euros bet.

"The 2-0 defeat was annoying enough, the hairdresser story leaves me stunned.

"That is decadent.

"It's not far off the golden steak," Rangnick added, referring to the furore last January when former France and Bayern Munich winger Franck Ribery ate an expensive steak covered in gold leaf at the Dubai restaurant owned by celebrity Turkish restauranteur Salt Bae.

Leipzig's sports director Markus Kroesche told Bild the issue of the celebrity haircuts had been addressed internally.

"Of course, it's unfortunate, because we pay a lot of attention to staying grounded at this club," he said.

"But it certainly wasn't because of a visit by a hairdresser to the team hotel that we lost the game in Frankfurt.

"The players realise it wasn't a good decision."

This is not the first time Bundesliga stars have been in trouble for having trims by London barber Edwards, who counts Usain Bolt and Raheem Sterling among his clients and, for a while, flew to Rome every week to cut Radja Nainggolan's hair.

A group of Borussia Dortmund stars were slammed by club bosses in February 2019 for haircuts before their 3-0 defeat at Tottenham in a Champions League last 16 game.
https://www.france24.com/en/2020012...-for-flying-in-celebrity-barber-before-defeat

 

seriously the whole RB Leipzig club is made of unprofessional players who use the club to go elsewhere in the future. No one cares about the club, it's just an ad for the players.

who remembers the overrated and unprofessional Augustin, dumped by RB for being unprofessional (although story at time goes that ALL Frenchies at the club were unprofessional, not just him and that Rangnick got pissed) went on loan to Monaco where he was dumped for being poor and now he's in Championship, lol. Augustin was really poor at RB too. Seriously like good chunk of RB transfers are meh.

✍️ #LUFC are delighted to announce the signing of Jean-Kevin Augustin on an initial loan deal from Red Bull Leipzig

— Leeds United (@LUFC) January 27, 2020

 

The Poles are coming.

Krzysztof Piatek will join Hertha Berlin from AC Milan after the two clubs agreed a €27m deal, according to Sky Italy. #hahohe #ACMilan #THFC

— Ronan Murphy (@swearimnotpaul) January 29, 2020

he's had a mediocre season after a good last season. Now 3 Polish CFs in 1BL and also likely end of the road for Selke....

 

-will Dortmund ever have 2 CFs? Feels like CFs at Dortmund only want to be the XI CF otherwise they jump ship.

Paco Alcácer is in Spain to finalise a move to Villarreal. The deal is worth around €23m.

This move could potentially fund Emre Can’s transfer to Germany, should Juventus allow his move.

(Source: Sky In Italy) pic.twitter.com/fHhZDgpxKU

— Transfer News Live (@DeadlineDayLive) January 30, 2020

oh well could make it easier for Moukoko.......

-LOL, 3/3 EPL loanees to RB Leipzig have amounted to 0 at the club......

Bristol City are interested in Ethan Ampadu, according to Bristol Live. The Chelsea defensive midfielder has been on loan at RB Leipzig, but has played just twice in the Bundesliga. #BCFC #CFC #RBL

— Ronan Murphy (@swearimnotpaul) January 30, 2020

 

Piatek official at Hertha until 2024.
11 million euros for Santiago Ascacibar (VfB Stuttgart), 24 million for Lucas Tousart (Olympique Lyon) - and now, according to kicker information, 23 million euros for Krzysztof Piatek (AC Milan): Hertha BSC, as announced by kicker on Wednesday, made the next expensive transfer and spent almost 60 million euros in January alone.

 

here $27M for him.

📝 DEAL DONE: Hertha Berlin have signed Krzysztof Piątek from AC Milan for a fee of €27m. (Source: @HerthaBSC) pic.twitter.com/JCEBtAoK2T

— Transfer News Live (@DeadlineDayLive) January 30, 2020

 

some people believe Hertha is losing their identity with all of these transfers and likely more transfers in Summer.

I recall Hertha not sure when maybe decade or more ago where they were like Frankfurt barely barely any Germans and this seems likely to happen again by the time we hit Summer.

ridiculous how the new investor wants to make Hertha into CL team in next 2-3 years. Yeah we need all German clubs to want to be CL teams so that no one integrates anymore, LOL. And shove money left and right.

and everyone admits that it will become harder and harder for Hertha talents to breakthrough 1st team going forward.

got 4 clubs in 1BL with no II teams, another one in Bayern with excessive standards and then more and more smaller clubs are just buying buying just to compete. I feel like 1BL clubs WANT to become EPL 2.0.

 

Before now, How many youths from Hertha have made it big.

Berlin is too big a market not to have a top team, they are probably the only capital city in Europe with no strong team, The population is there to draw the crowd to stadium and Also it's a cosmopolitan city where a lot of immigrants live so should tap into that talent pool from the academies

Berlin can support 3 Bundesliga teams

 

my point is it starts with Berlin than everyone will start getting investors and it will affect the whole league. 1BL always works on trends.

anyway you look at it, the less you promote the more it looks poorly on the Academy. The more foreign players in a league the more it reflects poorly on the league.

Berlin already has 2 1BL clubs. Union have no II and so don't use anyone Academy players because they want experienced players. So yeah Berlin will no longer be optimal place going forward.

why am I arguing with you? From what I recall you don't even want Bayern to integrate players either. And a lot of focus on buying. We just got different opinions and that's fine.

 

"Also it's a cosmopolitan city where a lot of immigrants live so should tap into that talent pool from the academies"

Berlin has lots of duals in their Academies and a lot of their top talents are either German or German duals but that means little if the promotion chances decrease by the season.

the same club who are extremely high on Arne Maier yet buy 2 players who will block him. Yeah they care so much, we are already seeing - repercussions from all of this.

 

also seems like Hertha is spending another $15M to buy Cunha from RB Leipzig. So all South Americans got dumped from RB, lol.

Cuhna at Leipzig
9 goals and 3 assists in 52 games, that's not great stats.He only has 2 1BL goals as well.

Hertha Winter
11+27+24+15=$77M in Winter. And according to reports their transfer money is up to $250M would guess the rest could be used in Summer.

Money is going to ruin this league.

 

the irony of all of this is that
Uli Hoeness, KHR, Kahn, Hasan have all stated that they want more and more Academy promotions at Bayern as market transfers are overpriced and extreme and also due to spending close to 9 digits to building new Campus. That in next few years we'll see more and more of that. They will still buy players but not only buy.

but the smaller clubs are going more and more buy? LOL.

who thinks Hertha will win anything in Europe in a few years anyways? They will be more Neverkusen type and likely won't really be competitive vs EPL and La Liga, LOL.

 

Investment at BL clubs can be good if used properly imo as it could raise standards, and makes the league more competitive. A more competitive league + more teams competing in the latter stages in CL/EL should equal more international coverage for the BL and bigger marketing revenues. This could attract more quality players to the BL which could actually better for the homegrown talent as it pushes them to reach higher standards.

The key is bringing in quality though, not lots of mediocre players. Quality over quantity.

Teams like Hertha cannot compete without investment. So either other clubs get investment or the league will remain uncompetitive with Bayern dominating most years and Dortmund and Leipzig, who both also spend much more then the rest, always in the top 4.