Bundesliga 2023/24 - Wolfsburg or Bayern? - It's the same question as the years before

I think I was getting them confused at times.

 

No... Brand was factually having another poor game Vs Duisburg, making the commentators criticisms completely fair/valid... nothing more. And second, Wolfsburg's formation is a 4-2-3-1 that simply appears to be broken down their right hand side, due to Wilms making some of most mindless forward runs you'll see from any modern female RB...

So with Brand's decision making deteriorating with every match. it's having increasing numbers of people notice other facets of her game gradually declining too; as she remains a very strong athlete who no longer beats opponents on the dribble, frustrating becoming very obvious she's making awful off ball movements into crowded central spaces, where few players could ever hope to positively effect games...

Kellermann even calling out the blatant problems with Brand's own game right now, it's frustrating for me knowing I'd speculate on this happening YEARS ago, saying for all her talent that Brand nowhere near the tactical maturity levels shown by peers Oberdorf, Lohmann, Buhl.

Not sure if this to do with injury, but if not, this is really dumb when you consider how much assists/chances are created through Rauch down the left, Vs the complete black hole of stability produced down Wolfsburg's right...

If your any of the top clubs within the Frauen Bundesliga, why the hell are you doing favours for the DFB...?

It's the CLUBS who pay the players in Germany, not the DFB. And looking at Oberdorf's recent form, knowing Germany also have perfectly good DM replacement options, I don't think she needs to be anywhere near the wnt before she actually fully healthy, and mentally prepared to perform at a high level again.

 

Leverkusen could move into 3rd place with a win over Leipzig....

And do we see Bayern drop points away from home against an annoying Bremen...? Or will Bremen wilt under pressure again like they did Vs Frankfurt...

 

the commentary on Brand was after the first half. Her performance significantly improved in the 2nd half, but alas, she couldn’t score or get an assist….and this was against the worst team in the league(or at least the worst it you take the GK out of the equation)

I still don’t get it why WOB keeps buying up all the top right side wingers in the country(Huth, Sellner, Brand, Endermann) but then renders that position practically useless when the right side FB & CB keep coming up & overlapping them?
Or(if I got this wrong) then there’s an definite albatross or curse hanging from the right side as we’ve seen the decline of Brand & Huth to go with the previous Sellner, van de Sanden Knaak…and now got to worry with Endermann who’s never going to get have those long strides counter opportunities like she had at Essen—-and in this particular game—-forced into the FB position

supposedly in for Oberdorf DM’s position, but Hagel looking more like an attacking(#10), which looked at times like Brand & Huth & Kalma & Pajor were trying to be as well, lol.

the worry here is that all these declining performances will adversely effect the NT—-and in an way, it has(could add Rauch lost her NT starting spot to Linder)

 

A significantly improved 2nd half..... Is the bar so low for peoples attempts to defend Brand, it means trying to set a narrative she was slightly better than bad, making her actually good Vs the leagues 12th placed (aka BOTTOM) club lol...

LOL.. you can't understand why Wolfsburg continue to recruit strong wide talents, when they've been the nations best club for years, a perennial 2nd best in Europe for years, having won a consecutive NINE domestic cups lol...

And this even more ridiculous to grasp, when we've just seen a UWCL final, and a WC final, both won by teams seeing their FB's scoring game wining goals lol.

Overlapping FB's a strength for good teams when it's done correctly. With Rauch producing 12 assists last season, 7 of those in the league, which would place her ahead of most attackers lol.

I'd even argue it was Simon as a offensive minded FB who was the leagues best overall player last season, within a Bayern side so enamoured with strong attacking FB's, they also currently home to Gwinn and Nashenweng too, further demonstrating the issue for Wolfsburg's right being Wilms, and not the role of a dynamic FB.

 

This is absolute nonsense, based on you once again using ZERO fact lol. Huth a perennial name at the top of the assists category, last season again ending as the player with the most assists for her club (12), in the process producing the leagues best stats for most key passes, and most crosses into the opponents PK box...

With attempts to try and place Seller's form on a decline being... wow.... As she'd also provide 7 goals last season as a player who'd barely feature in Wolfsburg's starting 11.

Meaning your trying too hard to make this a Wolfsburg thing, when it very obviously just a concern with Brand's personal form. As we see EVERY player in front of WIlms struggle constantly having to help her, and yet despite this we've seen Endemann's first season on Wolfsburg right still going very well.

Because that was exactly what her role was meant to be lol... It being obvious Lattwein meant to hold her position deeper, while Hagel allowed to move higher up field to join the attack.

Ughhh, I'm getting tired of repeating this... but Wolfsburg aren't the only team in this league with strong German wnt players; with club football also having very little effect on the performances of players various wnt's.

Prime example here being England, and the Netherland's, who's clubs do very little within the UWCL, but with a good wnt coach able to propel a smaller player pool to win a Euro, and reach WC finals.

 

@hotjam2 The German wnt is literally selected around the nations top 4 clubs (10 Wolfsburg players, 7 Bayern players, 5 Frankfurt players, max 2 Hoffenheim), and typically no more than 3 players selected from foreign clubs.

With me personally believing Edemann in line to be the 11th player selected from Wolfsburg lol, highlighting how Minge a complete anomaly coming from a mid table Freiburg, with people like me having to hope players like Senß, or Lührßen, can get the opportunity to demonstrate how much more good international level talents exist outside the top 4 clubs.

Leaving it pretty rational for any coach to create a German wnt constructed around Wolfsburg, when you could literally create a full team just from their squad..
Brand ----------------------- Popp ------------------------ Huth
---------- Hagel ----------------------------- Lattwein -----------
------------------------------ Oberdorf ----------------------------------
Rauch ----- Hegering ----------------- Hendrich ------ Küver
------------------------------- Frohms ----------------------------------

 

This season has been particularly interesting for observing talent outside the top 4 when looking at defenders, as we have Lührßen, Krug, L.Ostermeier, Sterner, Hann, all among the best players in the league.

And with prior coaches neglecting the need to develop more defensive depth, I hope to see Hubrech be smart.. or at least brave..., and finally start to introduce legitimate depth back into this one particular department of the wnt.

 

About that Potsdam game, Jennifer Cramer was given a straight red for pushing an Andernach player who fell to the ground:

(at 1:00)

What do you think, red card or not?

 

Nobody at the stadium understood the decision. The referee initially consulted with her assistant and then produced the red card.

 

GVP assisting Eriksson's first goal for Bayern Munich...

 

since starters make up the main playing time, it’s was;
8 WOB starters vs Korea
7 WOB starters vs Columbia
6 WOB starters vs Denmark, Brazil. Zambia
(just pointing out that these games since their were the NT’s worst games of the year)

most likely it’s been an average of six WOB starters under MVT. So far Hrubesch had four only four WOB in both of his games

Frankfurt might have had five members on the WC/NT but typically zero starters(unless an WOB starter is injured), so their actually playing time is very low.
So let’s break down the playing time vs Korea(which was by far the most important game of the year since it determined if Germany would advance to the WC playoffs stage)
all WOB playing time; 714 minutes
all BM playing time; 180 minutes
all Frankfurt’s time; 6 minutes

hmm….so don’t why you think the NT was so equally distributed?

 

Lets see.. why would Wolfsburg be the club with the most national team players, with the highest starting minutes for the wnt... hmmmm.

2018, 2020, 2023 UWCL 2nd place finishes. Having won the league 5 times in the past 6 years (2016/17, 2017/18, 2018/19, 2019/20, 20121/22). Also creating a record 10 time domestic cup winners run, 9 of those titles produced over a consecutive 9 year period of time too lol.

Even if your trying to ignore the Euro's being Germany's best run of form in years, you'd need to be seriously ignorant not to grasp the very logical reasoning behind club success placing Frohms, Hegering, Hendrich, Rauch, Oberdorf, Popp, Huth, as dominant core of the wnt...

It making ZERO sense to try and reduce Jones to MVT era to Wolfsburg's players being bad, when this time period we've only seen Wolfsburg's players continue performing at the highest level of European and domestic women's football..

But what should I expect from some who can't even acknowledge what makes Oberdorf so good lol. As I remain 99% sure without a strong domestic core from Wolfsburg representing German women's football, the fate of past wnt's would have been significantly worse over the past 5-7 years...

 

@hotjam2 By the way... I'm someone who wanted to see Lohmann, and Simon, both being more established members of the wnt. Also feeling someone like Kleinherne not having the time to prove her value for the wnt too.

The core of the wnt coming from the most successful club, featuring the highest number of elite domestic players to select from, just makes logical and reasonable sense.

And even if the wnt was to select players solely based on week to week club form, I feel like you'd have found some new excuses to explain away the mediocre performances that clearly originated from the horrible leadership of the wnt's coaches...

 

... with that level of officiating... WB goalie should be glad that she wasn't red carded for DOGSO

 

Yeah... lets stay clear of DOGSO talk lol.

 

Watching her impress in a CM role again... I continue to ask, why isn't Sehitler on loan at another 1.Bundesliga club...

 

She will be, it's a matter of scouting mostly.

 

What exactly does this mean...?