Bundesliga 2023/24 - Wolfsburg or Bayern? - It's the same question as the years before

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  1. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Promotion for 2.Bundesliga second leg (2pm)
    Bochum vs Mainz


    Henstedt-Ulzburg vs Union Berlin
     
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  2. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Henstedt-Ulzburg - Union Berlin 0:2(0:2) agg:0:10
    Orschmann(19,37)

    Bochum - Mainz 2:1(0:0) agg:6:3
    Lange(79,85) - Anstatt(80)
     
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  3. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany

     
  4. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    With Sellner still out of their team, I think Wolfsburg signing Beerensteyn makes more sense than it would initially appear....
    Jonsdottir/Brand ------------- Popp/Beerensteyn/Kalma -------------- Endemann/Huth
    ------------------------------------------ Blomqvist/Xhemaili ---------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------- Hagel/Lattwein --------------------- Minge/Demann ------------------------------
    Linder/Rábano ----- Küver/Hegering ----------------- Hendrich/Dijkstra ------ Wedemeyer/Wilms
    ------------------------------------------- Frohms/Schmitz -------------------------------------------------

    The big issues here in my opinion still being poor FB depth, questions over who replaces Janssen, and the nature of their mid-field.

    However, should a dynamic Blomqvist return to first team football, with Brand, SJJ, Endemann all continuing their steady development, I'm not seeing any decline in Wolfsburg's attack next season... but instead potential improvement...:cautious:

    Kellermann just needs to take a genuine look at trying to bring another credible FB to his club, with a better plan for CM depth beyond hoping Lattwein - Minge can stay healthy all season.
     
  5. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I'm also seeing Wolfsburg signed a 22yo DM Hungarian international called Budapest Luca Papp...
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    This is the 2nd Hungarian international Wolfsburg have signed in a short period of time, and I'm very confused why it's happening with players from this particular Euro based wnt program...:unsure:

    Knowing the past motives of transfers like this, Papp most likely brought in to train with the first team. But seriously, I don't know why Wolfsburg don't look around the league, and just find themselves a young CM/DM with enough league experience to replicate what Papp will provide the team next season...:confused:
     
  6. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  7. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    With the confirmation of her transfer to her new club, the addition of Pajor alongside Hansen, Rolfo, Engen, makes it 4 former Wolfsburg players all playing for Barcelona... as Barcelona again are potentially ready to let Wolfsburg take another of their bench warmers in return...
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    Wolfsburg aren't getting the best from this long running relationship with Barcelona lol...:rolleyes:
     
  8. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Hoffenheim signing u20 international Sara Ritter is an interesting situation. As the club are saying they've signed her as a CB, when they already posses Specht, Doorn, Cazalla...:unsure:

    Recruiting Cerci to their club already has me believing Hoffenheim set to change their formation next season...:cautious:, and they continue to strengthen their squad in ways that suggests them forming a better side than the one we saw stumbling their way to 5th last season.

    So if we see Cerci and Kössler combine as they did for Potsdam (22 single season league goals), with Memeti, Alber, both contributing goals, Hoffeheim should find themselves in a much better position next season.

    But add those extra goals alongside Delacauw being a good CM signing, Hahn a good defensive signing, and now Ritter another good defensive signing too. Hoffenheim could also be adding the needed stability which see's them conceding less goals next season.
     
  9. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  10. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I read something that Freiburg’s attractive blond, Judith Steinerd is transferring to Union Berlin.
    Remembering another blond named Lange used to be an up & coming striker for Essen, so could be the same one Bochum’s got.
    Islacker playing now for Stuttgard

    so pretty/blond, domestic Bundesliga players preferring to move to the 2nd/3rd down division, could be an trend? lol

    currently Bundesliga stands at 65.5% domestic/34.5% foreign—-which about the opposite of England’s WSL But as woso keeps getting more physical, foreign mercs will be making more inroads in the Bundi
     
  11. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The Lange from Bochum is Nina Lange who played three years in 1.Bundesliga for Duisburg.
    The Lange from Essen is Maria Cristina Lange (Nickname: Nina!) and plays now for the other promoted team Union Berlin (but didn't play since November 2023 because of a knee injury).
     
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  12. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Bragstad and Vilhjalmsdottir (contract extension with Bayern until 2026) stay at Leverkusen.



    All clubs got the license for 1. and 2. Bundesliga (of course apart from Duisburg). Next season starts on 30th August(1.Bundesliga) and 24th August (2.Bundesliga).
     
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  13. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Bragstad and KLV both extend their contracts with Bayern, but remain on loan at Leverkusen for another full season, while Sehitler remains in Bayern's 2nd team for another season...
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    Why are Bayern allowing various foreign talents to leave and get experience within first team club football, but stagnating the careers of their young German talents by relegating them to mere bench warming sometimes B team players....:confused:

    Bayern signed young Japanese talent Momoko Tanikawa and loaned her to Rosengard, and are allowing Leverkusen to benefit from the talent of Bragstad, and KLV for two full seasons lol. But Sehitler has to watch all her junior wnt peers thrive, as she's stuck in Bayern's 2nd team...:thumbsdown:
     
  14. hotjam2

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    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    interesting part with Beerensteyn even though she was the starting #9, she wasn’t JUV’s leading goal scorer, the French Lindsey Thomas out scored her 8 to 7, out assist her 3 to 2 in league regular play in only 1017 minutes to Beerensteyn 1709.

    to be fair, she’s led the Dutch NT with an record 13 goal in 2023, but the team has fallen out of FIFA top ten since. Last time I seen her play(vs Germany) she looked like she was back to her selfish self, practically taking all her team’s shots
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    noticing former Turbine, Chiemilinski at #2 in assists in the Italian league, I’ve revised my all-star lineup for Germans along foreign leagues. Notice—-due to being so heavy with mids, had to shovel them to other positions.
    FW………,,,….Nuskin

    Magull…… …Chiemilinski………Petermann

    …………,…..Dabritz………Gasper

    Muller..…Rauch…….Leupolz……Rall

    ………………Berger

    didn’t pick Marozsan due to lack of playing time at Lyon/Bremer stuck in an FB position(and not doing to good) at her English club. am I’m missing anybody else?
     
  15. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    In 2025/26 1.Bundesliga will play with 14 teams! Next season 3 teams will be promoted from 2.Bundesliga and only 1 team relegated! 2.Bundesliga remains at 14 teams so we will have 5 teams promoted from Regionalliga (all Regionalliga Champions - no play-off) next season.
     
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  16. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Karczewska will not return from loan to Tottenham but also will not stay in Leverkusen either.
    Rumor has it she will transfer to AC Milan.
     
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  17. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    1.Bundesliga will be expanded from 12 to 14 clubs for the 2025/2026 season....
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    Wow... no sign of the DFB generating improved sponsorship/TV deals, no sign of them finding ways to improve professional conditions or pay, and no interest in listening to the elite clubs issues with having more scheduling issues...:speechless:
     
  18. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    After reports of extending loan deals with KLV, and Bragstad, Bayer 04 Leverkusen have signed central Bragstad from Bayern on a permanent deal...o_O
     
  19. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Popp and Pajor had a very strong understanding of each others style of play, resulting in them creating a lot of goals for each other over many years; even if they were never actually deployed together as a front two for most of their time within Wolfsburg's first team.

    So it will be interesting to see how quickly Beerensteyn can acclimatise to her new team now. As she has a positive past experience of this league with Bayern, and has a style of play that should fit perfectly within Wolfsburg aggressive transition focused attack.

    But still being more of a winger than a genuine #9, hoping to replace Pajor's15-20 goal factor, Wolfsburg are blatantly still going to need Brand, Blomqvist, or SJJ, to step up and become the teams next double digit goal scorers next season...:cautious:

    So why is Leupolz in your list, when she's openly retired from the wnt...:confused: Surely she's just as irrelevant as Marozsan to your idea of an "all star" foreign league German 11 lol.
     
  20. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    ....:unsure: Is someone planning to leave Hoffeneheim...?

    Krumbiegel had to leave because she couldn't displace Memeti, Alber, H-Füller, Janssens, to gain match time as a wide forward; and that was before Cerci joined the club lol.

    So if nobody is leaving, where is Grabowska meant to play for Hoffenheim next season...?
     
  21. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member+

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Draw for DFB-Pokal first round 17.8-19.8 (Teams from 2.Bundesliga in bold):
    Hansa Rostock (RL Nordost) vs VfL Bochum
    Hertha BSC (RL Nordost) vs ATS Buntentor (RL Nord)
    Rot-Weiß Göttingen vs SV Meppen
    FC St.Pauli (RL Nord) vs Arminia Bielefeld (RL West)
    FSV Gütersloh 2009 vs Union Berlin
    VfR Warbeyen (RL West) vs DJK Wacker Mecklenbeck (RL West)
    SV Henstedt-Ulzburg (RL Nord) vs Viktoria Berlin (RL Nordost)
    Stahl Brandenburg vs Kieler MTV (RL Nord)
    1.FC Magdeburg (RL Nordost) vs Hamburger SV
    Kickers Offenbach (RL Süd) vs FC Ingolstadt
    Fortuna Köln (RL West) vs TuS Issel (RL Südwest)
    Eintracht Leipzig-Süd vs Borussia Mönchengladbach
    SG 99 Andernach
    vs SC Sand
    SC Siegelbach (RL Südwest) vs 1.FFV Erfurt (RL Nordost)
    FC Forstern vs SV 67 Weinberg
    Hegauer FV vs SV Hegnach (RL Süd)
    Karlsruher SC (RL Süd) vs SV Elversberg (RL Südwest)
    VfB Stuttgart (RL Süd) vs 1.FSV Mainz 05 (RL Südwest)
     
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  22. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  23. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC

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    This is getting ridiculous.....
     
  24. Batfink

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    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    10 of the Netherland's latest 26 player u19 squad all come from Ajax, only 2 names from Twente.

    For the Netherland's 36 player provisional u20 WWC squad, they'd select 2 players from Twente, while AZ Alkmaar and PSV would have 7, and PEC Zwolle 6.

    But when it comes to the senior wnt, FC Twente as the nations most successful women's team (3 titles in the last 4 years), and the current Eredivisie champions, feature 4 outfield players in the wnt squad, the most players of any domestic club.

    Roord, Beerensteyn, the most successful names to have spent time with Twente, with both players seeing a move to Bayern as their first step away from their home nation.

    When we Hoffenheim, and Leverkusen, able to recruit strong Eredivisie talent, whatever Wolfsburg think their doing, historically speaking... this persistent interest they've had with Eredivisie football, has produced a series of nothing but underwhelming results...:unsure:
     
  25. Batfink

    Batfink Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Attilan
    Club:
    Manchester United FC

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