Bundesliga 2022/23 - 27 EURO finalists play in the best league in Europe

And...? Both Nüsken, and Kleinherne, accomplished the same feat last season, so I fail to see the supposed unique extra quality this gives a player.

See, if staying healthy a genuinely credible factor of someone's overall quality, the wnt would have had names like Peggy Kuznik, Selina Ostermeier, and Lina Hausicke all playing for them right now...

Again... this is just dumb lol; as this kind of irrational thinking would have seen Germany at the Euro's without Hegering, Gwinn, Oberdorf, Lohmann, Popp, Bühl, all because they struggled with fitness over the season...

But yeah... lets replace those world class talents, with names like Minge, Peggy Kuznik, Selina Ostermeier, and Lina Hausicke, because they will play more games over the course of a tournament... yeah, this clown shoes wearing level statement hotjam2 lol

 

So we're praising MVT for wasting everyone's time by selecting Minge and not using her, as every piece of data analysis you find on this league, has Steuerwald, and Senß, at the top of the lists within their respective positions of CB, and CM...

Steuerwald the one domestic CB who continues to produces the most impressive numbers in the area of winning the ball in 1v1 duels (she's been factually stronger than Hendrich at doing this...)

But no... it's perfectly reasonable to ignore how Nüsken the latest high quality CM being wasted at CB, even though a few direct replacements for Hegering already exist for national team selection.

 

I'm sure Freigang the main forward within Frankfurt's system lol. But my point still stands... if your saying Germany lacking "multi dimensional" forwards, it doesn't work with your comparison next to Pajor; a player who for all her gifts, is still a very one dimensional type of forward.

It would be like me saying Pajor isn't interesting, because she's not physical, and doesn't score enough through heading to effectively work within a German wnt...Regardless of your liking of their styles, Popp, Schüller, Freigang, provide Germany with a very diverse trio of forwards.

 

@hotjam2 I had a look at this a little deeper... 5 of the top 6 goal scorers last season were German, featuring a pretty diverse cast of styles (Schüller, Cerci, Freigang, Hagel, Waßmuth). 20/21 saw 3 (Schüller, Freigang, Lohmann), 19/20 seeing 2 German's (Dallmann, Freigang), 18/19 with 4 (Däbritz, Schüller, Popp, Islacker).

In a period of 5 years, Germany have gone from a very limited Islacker as the #1 domestic forward, to Schüller and Freigang taking over the crown, alongside a host of talented goal scoring AM's spread all around them. So yeah...
this Pajor comparison very strange....

Instead of Germany possessing a Pajor, they have a lot more variety now spread among more players.

 

again, I'm talking current & striker(not past or goal scorer's) Freigang has been listed over & over as an #10. Here in the video at the 15.30 mark
(1) German Women's Cup 2022/23. Third Round. RB Leipzig vs Eintracht Frankfurt (11.19.2022) - YouTube
and in the configuration at league match
Eintracht Frankfurt vs. Köln - 6 November 2022 - Women Soccerway

that would make then Minge in rather good company, lol. but I'm pretty sure last season she got an special award with the player with the most minutes(domestic cup play could of been added)

in your altered world, Germany won the Euros. Hate to inform you, but nope, they only were runner's up. But maybe they could of won the final if they were all perfectly fit?

btw......recent history hasn't been kind to Euro runner's up; Denmark(2017) failed to qualify for 2019/WC Norway(2013) knocked out at the round of 16 of 2015/WC. England(2009) knocked out at quarters of 2011 WC

so to avoid this, MVT needs to progressively move forward, instead of looking backwards. Or in other words, not go exactly back to the Euro lineup

 

here's going to be the English version link for the CL match between Wolfsburg & Roma coming up later today


checking out Roma a bit; their unbeaten in their last 11 games. Dunno their starting lineup but very international with 12 foreigners listed out of their 28 player roster, Seems very veteran-ish but that's not often a good thing as remembering Alves was starter on her Brazilian NT for several years but now doesn't even play for them anymore. Likewise Wenninger's role severly diminished in recent years for Bayern/as compared to Wolfsburg who brings some of the world's top younger & players in their prime to this match.
https://us.women.soccerway.com/teams/italy/ssd-roma/44602/

and the sad news to repoort that England's Beth Mead got an ACL(which most likely miss the WC). I don't think I ever remember before so many of the top players out on ACL at the same time. It's serious problem that the powers to be don't seem to want to address~~~my view would be start issuing straight reds for fragnant fouls instead of letting players off with yellows or just an warning

 

Your playing a funny game of semantics here.... where you'd initially talk about Germany not possessing forwards with (your words) "multi dimensional" attributes; only to be shown this isn't true, seeing you now decide to adjust your stance towards an even narrower window of perspective towards this season, selectively ignoring how/where Germany's main forwards actually play lol.

I mean, pretending past evidence doesn't count is one thing, but I can't understand why you continue to dismiss the clear facts of Frankfurt's system using Freigang within a false 9 role...

For the past 3 years Prašnikar comfortably beating Freigang in assists; You know, the one area you'd expect a CAM/AM to excel..., but Freigang has beat Prašnikar in the top scorers list. This doesn't happen if Freigang not the teams main forward.

 

This is such a bad rationale to try and use here lol. Please... look at the top 10-15 names on the list of players with the most mins played last season... then go look at the top 10-15 names on the list for the same seasons best players...

 

Hmmm, it's not an altered world view to see Germany's wnt play at the Euro's, and understand them to probably be the best in Europe...

I think the USwnt coach even said the same thing during the recent friendlies Vs Germany, no...? And Germany (or any wnt) legislating for COVID removing their key players, shouldn't be considered an avoidable type of injury either.

As losing Popp before the final was simply unlucky, within a tournament she'd feature in 5 matches, only 90 mins away during the 6th and final match from being tournament top scorer, and POTT, for a team that in defeat would still dominate UEFA's best 11 of the tournament selection too.

 

Wow.. yeah, OK hotjam2... because 2 time WC winners, 8 time Euro winners, 1 time Olympic Gold medalists Germany, are in the exact same position as previous runners up Denmark, Norway, and England...

For all my complaints about MVT, I'm in little doubt concerning the quality of player available to the coach, or the palpable positive momentum they appear to be carrying towards the WC.

 

Backwards..? Germany would send the 2nd youngest team to the Euro's, and see these players form one of the more exciting teams in the senior wnt's recent history.

Over the 12 months between the Euro's and the WC, starters like Gwinn, Rauch, Oberdorf, Magull, Frohms, Däbritz, Bühl, will still all under 30. With 2nd/maybe potential 1st choice options like Brand, Freigang, Schüller, Waßmuth, Lattwein, Lohmann, Nüsken, Dallmann, Anyomi, Kleinherne, all being under 30 too.

Only Hegering, Hendrich, Huth, Popp, maybe Marozsan, will feature as the vital mature pieces of needed experience for this team; so who's looking backwards here...?

 

Their still top of the Italian league, and the last time Wolfsburg faced a league leading Italian side within UWCL competition last season, Juve would draw with them, and then beat Wolfsburg away, during the group stages...

So this will still be a test for Wolfsburg, meaning we get another opportunity to see if this seasons more controlled style actually more effective, or frustratingly underwhelming...

 

yeah,but add the missing Popp & Pajor(from last year) to go along with added newbies Brand, Jonsdottire Hegering Denmann might help just a little too, lol

today's starting,lineup


well with the disaster in Qatar earlier today, maybe that sleeping giant of german broso fans awake up & support their woso teams instead?

 

WIB down 1-0 already 3 min mark

 

rWOB right now playing like they’re in moaning like the rest of Germany after this morning’s disaster. Please AWAKE UP!

 

Pajor on an great individual effort 1-1 35 min. Please more of this (instead of those lack-of-creativity lateral passes we’ve had to endure for the first 35 minutes!

 

Popp is a really mediocre CM lol, and every time a coach wastes her in this role, it only continues to become a negative influence on her team as a whole...

Bad positioning, bad tackles, and aimless forward passing with Popp as a CM. It's exactly like I said early season. Until Stroot stops forcing Popp and Pajor into the team, it will see Wolfsburg never come close to their full potential.

 

The way Wolfsburg are playing this season, seems to have the clear intention of Oberdorf controlling the mid-field, allowing Lattwein, and Roord, to move into more offensively advance areas of the field.

So with Wolfsburg having a back up possession based DM like Demann, it feels really dumb watching Stroot regress back to last seasons approach of you have it, we have it, requiring a more direct individualism to create and score goals.

 

Figures they replace Brand with Jonsdottir, Jule was asy to hesitant

 

Yeah... in a game they have no control over the mid-field, the more 1v1 direct style of SJJ comes on for Brand.

Wolfsburg without Oberdorf, is strangely similar to the wnt without Oberdorf...

 

WOB really missing an playmaker in this one, they should try Huth at #10 and bring in Wassmuth at wing

 

65th minute & no new subs, is WOB content with an tie?

 

What their missing is Oberdorf... For all the recruitment, they're still reliant on her dictating how they play.

And Stroot needs to get Popp out, before she does something stupid...

 

Well OK... if Hegering is the DM back up now, I guess Wolfsburg need to sign another CM at the end of the season...

Popp should have been subbed at HT, but either way they now have 20 mins to win this game.