Bundesliga 2022/23 - 27 EURO finalists play in the best league in Europe

Discussion in 'Germany Mädels: NT and Frauen-Bundesliga' started by Lohmann, Aug 1, 2022.

  1. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
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    It seems to me that @Lohmann never wrote that women's teams were always going to use men's venues. Let's read the original post:

    All he was saying is that, by knowing men's schedule, some women's top games, by definition a small number (let's say a semifinal of Champions' League or some typical top-of-the-league clash as Bayern-Wolfsburg), could have been played in these bigger stadiums. It did happen in the past, it could happen in the future, that's all.

    Your retorsion seemed to me petty and unmotivated. Way better to drop it. :coffee:
     
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  2. Lohmann

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  3. BIHfan

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    Oct 13, 2020
    Maybe for Duisburg but overall what I said is still true: Most Frauen Bundesliga clubs have their own stadiums where they play most of their games. Therefore, they are usually not affected in any way by the 1. Bundesliga schedule.
     
  4. Lohmann

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    9 clubs of Frauen Bundesliga have a men's team in 1.Bundesliga. Last season we had more than 142000 spectators in 7 games in the stadiums of the men's Bundesliga teams. Even if sold out we would had more than 100000 spectators less if these games had been played in the usual stadiums of the women's teams. If you have 359000 spectators overall and say I don't care if I had 100000 spectators less - okay, then expect the schedule of Frauen Bundesliga to be published soon (I will not expect it before we have the schedule of men's 1.Bundesliga, 2.Bundesliga and 3.Liga)..
     
  5. BIHfan

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    What does stadium attendance have to do with when the schedule for the new season will be published???
     
  6. Batfink

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    Attilan
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    ...:confused: The Straus version of Bayern don't even play with/through any of the numerous traditional CAM's they already have lol. So I don't want to call this a potentially bad move for her career, but this sure reads like it would be a potentially bad move for her career...:cautious:
     
  7. BIHfan

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    It's another classical case of all the good players in the league moving to Wolfsburg and Bayern for better or for worse.
     
  8. Batfink

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    Except Wolfsburg actually recruit their new players for roles that makes sense for their team. But where the hell would Bayings play within Bayern's current team..?

    She's a young CAM/#10 reportedly on the radar of a club who can't even fit Lohmann into their mid-field lol, having already brought Harder in as a guaranteed starter, while they'll have Magull, Dallmann, KLV, and u19 starlet Sehitler, all fighting/hoping for game time...:confused:

    If this Weider, or Kössler, it would make a little more sense for the way Straus appears to want his team to play. But I could only imagine Bayings moving to Bayern, if Bayern were preparing to release one of Magull, Dallmann, KLV, or Lohmann...:unsure:
     
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  9. BIHfan

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    Bayern are expected to loan Karólina Lea Vilhjálmsdóttir somewhere so she can get more playing time.
     
  10. Batfink

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    Attilan
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    OK... but is the last part about KLV being the future replacement for Magull actually true...:unsure: This just reads like something the club says to hide a players loan period being an early sign of their future departure lol.

    Harder's arrival instantly means Magull's time is basically finished. Making this notion KLV the future replacement for Bayern's captain, sound incredibly insincere to me; or am I wrong here...?
     
  11. BIHfan

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    Yeah the last part makes no sense. How can she be a replacement for Magull if you're going to loan her out and replace Magull with Harder anyways? Something is wrong here.
     
  12. Batfink

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    Excuse me.. how much...:speechless: Wolfsburg need to be like, goodbye Roord lol...
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  13. Batfink

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    #2538 Batfink, Jun 28, 2023
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    I think they want to sell her, but without KLV playing enough within the league to justify rival clubs spending a significant transfer fee for her, Bayern appear to have zero option now but to loan her out until her contract moves closer to expiring...:unsure:

    Straus clearly progressing his own football vision alongside the eventual removal of almost all Wörle, and Scheuer's, development of Bayern's past championship/UWCL success.

    If KLV was initially brought to the club as the talented young understudy to eventually replace Magull in their first team, this clearly isn't the case anymore under the watch of Straus.
     
  14. Lohmann

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  15. BIHfan

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    It doesn't have to be a significant transfer fee, she's only 21 years old and has barely played since she moved to Bayern in 2021. I never understood how they visioned her development, is it because they think she's not good enough?
     
  16. Lohmann

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  17. Batfink

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    Attilan
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    If I remember this correctly, didn't Bayern sign KLV as the biggest youth prospect from Iceland, who'd initially join a title winning Bayern viewed as a bigger prospect than SJJ..?

    You think of the potential transfer fee Wolfsburg will likely receive for SJJ one day, I can imagine Bayern feeling like their investment in KLV will have been a comparative failure should she eventually leave the club for nothing...:cautious:

    We all saw KLV at the Euro's, and you could see her ability/talent as a CAM is very good. But Straus simply doesn't use dedicated CAM's within his system, with him even mentioning his intention to move towards using a CAM-less 3-4-3 in the future too.

    And when you have a coach who can't grasp how a major mid-field talent like Lohmann can fit into his mid-field, you know this really isn't an issue of talent keeping someone like KLV from gaining access to match time within Bayern's team lol.
     
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  18. Batfink

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    Attilan
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    @BIHfan Right now, I genuinely feel this will be the Bayern first 11/squad we see next season...
    ---------------- Bühl ------------- Schüller ----------------
    -------------------------- Harder ---------------------------
    Simon --------- Zadrazil ----- Stanway ---------- Gwinn
    ------- Eriksson ------- GPV --------- Tainara -----------
    --------------------------- Grohs -----------------------------
    SUBS: Magull, Dallmann, Lohmann, Hansen, Rall, Damnjanović, (eventually) Kett

    And this knowing Bayern wanted to release Rall, and tried to replace Gwinn with a new RB signing too. Showing you how much Straus wants to continue removing the identity of the previous era's development plan for this team.

    KLV being a part of the clubs pre Straus long term planning, she was always fighting for her future within this team; and now with his surprise title win, would honestly be one of the easiest previous era players he can remove/replace with his own preferred options.
     
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  19. BIHfan

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    Eintracht Frankfurt get Slovacko from Slovakia as their first opponent in the UWCL.
     
  20. Lohmann

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    followed by Juventus:eek:
     
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  21. Lohmann

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    Slovacko is from the Czech Republic.
     
  22. BIHfan

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    You're right, the presenter made a mistake then because he said Slovakia.
     
  23. blissett

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    Things can be counter-intuitive. :rolleyes::giggle:
     
  24. Lohmann

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    Frankfurt will be the host of their Champions League tournament.
     
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  25. blissett

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    Well, this could give them a small home-advantage margin.
     
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