Bundesliga 2019-20, better than a shot of Jagermeister!

Lohmann · Jul 6, 2020

Corona table:
1.Wolfsburg 16 19-1
2.Bayern 16 17-1
3.Hoffenheim 12 18-6
4.Freiburg 12 18-7
5.Potsdam 10 12-11
6.Köln 10 6-18
7.Duisburg 8 6-11
8.Essen 7 5-10
9.Frankfurt 6 10-15
10.Sand 6 8-14
11.Leverkusen 4 5-17
12.Jena 2 3-16

Köln with 8 games, Duisburg and Jena with 7 games. All other teams have 6 games.

Potsdam, Freiburg and Duisburg improved by one place.
Essen, Sand and Leverkusen lost one place.

hotjam2 · Jul 6, 2020

Klingo3034 said: ↑

Feel like Wolfburg could win the UEFA CL. They are the only ones playing while the rest of the Euro league are not.
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Not when they gave up a goal in the first 15 seconds! Lyon has all ready announced at least an half dozen games prior to the CL encounters, plus they extended the contracts of Bronze & Greenwood for that tourney(whereas WOB’s all ready lost Lindahl & Gunnersdottire) & not allowed to use their new signees.

WOB seems to play with a 3-back, which would not be a very good defensive posture against Lyon which has some of the worlds best wingers & attacking FB’s/can’t help but feel they’ll be once again at the mercy of counters that’s killed them the last couple of times they’ve met Lyon.

at least WOB’s first game should be easy; Glasgow has yet to hit practice field!

Lohmann · Jul 6, 2020

Home games before and after Corona break (W/D/L)
Wolfsburg
6/1/0
4/0/0
Bayern
7/0/1
2/1/0
Hoffenheim
7/0/1
3/0/0
Potsdam
6/0/2
2/0/1
Essen
7/0/0
1/1/2
Frankfurt
4/2/2
2/0/1
Freiburg
1/4/3
2/0/1
Sand
4/0/5
1/0/1
Duisburg
1/2/5
0/2/1
Leverkusen
3/0/5
1/0/2
Köln
2/0/5
3/0/1
Jena
0/1/7
0/1/2

Overall
48 10 36 (51,07%/10,64%/38,30%)
21 5 12 (55,27%/13,16%/31,58%)

Surprisingly the home advantage was bigger without spectators.

Lohmann · Jul 6, 2020

The start for the new season is planned for 4th September (1.Bundesliga) and 3rd October (2.Bundesliga). DFB-Pokal will start on 26th September and the final will be played on 29th May 2021.
https://www.dfb.de/news/detail/rahmenterminkalender-der-frauen-fuer-20202021-verabschiedet-217289/

Thomsen · Jul 6, 2020

It’s weird to say it, but I actually think that Wolfsburg are on a slight decline? I mean, the season has been pretty good but the games I’ve seen from them, especially after the corona, haven’t been that great if I’m brutally honest and I think Lyon will have an easier time taming this team than they had when Fischer, Hansen and Gunnarsdottir were aroud

Also really impressed by Ostermeier, I think she deserves a call to the NT

hotjam2 · Jul 7, 2020

Thomsen said: ↑

It’s weird to say it, but I actually think that Wolfsburg are on a slight decline? I mean, the season has been pretty good but the games I’ve seen from them, especially after the corona, haven’t been that great if I’m brutally honest and I think Lyon will have an easier time taming this team than they had when Fischer, Hansen and Gunnarsdottir were aroud
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Thomsen said: ↑

Also really impressed by Ostermeier, I think she deserves a call to the NT
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after the CL, Hendrich, Bremer & Oberdorf join the team. Hendrich will boost them on the defensive end/or on the flanks which been previously suspect in counters. Bremer’s a bit similar to Pajor, so not sure if there’s a starting spot for both. And then take it that Oberdorf will start ahead of Engen(who hasn’t looked impressive despite starting most games.

what position Ostermeyer plays? I really think MVT is heading towards more athletic & physical type newbies than previous technical ones......and while the most preferred would be an overall balance, there’s way too many left over technocrats on the squad all ready/that’s why the major shift in the other direction
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I was expecting the usually pillaging of Bundi players by other leagues offering better salaries, but so far it really hasn’t happened much;

3rd place HOF is only loosing their FB’s, Linder to U of C Florida, Pankratz (team’s oldest player) to PSG who also picked up, Voll, the Gk of SC Sand. So not really big names & hopefully the looting is over. One news I hear is that while Harder has another year on her WOB contract, she has an escape clause that she can bolt anytime she wants. Chelsea & Lyon are hard out to get her

Klingo3034 · Jul 7, 2020

hotjam2 said: ↑

after the CL, Hendrich, Bremer & Oberdorf join the team. Hendrich will boost them on the defensive end/or on the flanks which been previously suspect in counters. Bremer’s a bit similar to Pajor, so not sure if there’s a starting spot for both. And then take it that Oberdorf will start ahead of Engen(who hasn’t looked impressive despite starting most games.

what position Ostermeyer plays? I really think MVT is heading towards more athletic & physical type newbies than previous technical ones......and while the most preferred would be an overall balance, there’s way too many left over technocrats on the squad all ready/that’s why the major shift in the other direction
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I’m thinking the younger athletic players are already technical In Germany and just need emphasis on being more stronger and faster.

Lohmann · Jul 7, 2020

Goals:
Wolfsburg(93):
Pernille Harder(27), Ewa Pajor(16), Alexandra Popp(11), Zsanett Jakabfi(7), Fridolina Rolfö(6), Sara Björk Gunnarsdottir(5), Svenja Huth(4), Noelle Maritz(3), Ingrid Syrstad Engen(3), Dominique Bloodworth(2), Claudia Neto(2), Pia-Sophie Wolter(2), Joelle Wedemeyer(1), Anna Blässe(1), Felicitas Rauch(1), Sophia Kleinherne(Frankfurt/OG), Jacqueline Klasen(Essen/OG)

Bayern(60):
Jovana Damnjanovic(11), Linda Dallmann(10), Lineth Beerensteyn(7), Melanie Leupolz(6), Lina Magull(5), Mandy Islacker(4), Carolin Simon(3), Simone Laudehr(2), Kathrin Hendrich(2), Simone Boye Sörensen(2), Nicole Rolser(2), Carina Wenninger(1), Amanda Ilestedt(1), Giulia Gwinn(1), Sandrine Mauron(Frankfurt/OG),Virginia Kirchberger(Freiburg/OG), Julia Debitzki (Duisburg/OG)

Hoffenheim(67):
Nicole Billa(18), Isabelle Hartig(12), Tabea Waßmuth(11), Lena Lattwein(5), Maximiliane Rall(4), Katharina Naschenweng(3), Jana Beuschlein(3), Anne Fühner(2), Fabienne Dongus(2), Leonie Pankratz(2), Luana Bühler(2), Paulina Käte Krumbiegel(1), Franziska Harsch(1), Ali Riley(Bayern/OG)

Potsdam(52):
Lara Prasnikar(15), Nina Ehegötz(6), Malgorzata Mesjasz(5), Anne Gasper(4), Bianca Schmidt(3), Sophie Weidauer(3), Johanna Elsig(3), Caroline Siems(2), Sara Agrez(2), Viktoria Schwalm(2), Marie-Therese Höbinger(2), Gina-Maria Chmielinski(1), Luca Graf(1), Laura Lindner(1), Carolin Simon(Bayern/OG), Anne van Bonn(Sand/OG)

Essen(41):
Lea Schüller(16), Turid Knaak(5), Nicole Anyomi(4), Lena Sophie Oberdorf(3), Nina Brüggemann(2), Lena Ostermeier(2), Ramona Petzelberger(2), Manjou Wilde(1), Irini Ioannidou(1), Kirsten Nesse(1), Jana Feldkamp(1), Jacqueline Klasen(1), Maria Cristina Lange(1), Barbara Dunst(Frankfurt/OG)

Frankfurt(44):
Laura Freigang(16), Sjoeke Nüsken(5), Laura Feiersinger(5), Shekiera Martinez(5), Geraldine Reuteler(4), Barbara Dunst(3), Verena Aschauer(1), Tanja Pawollek(1), Sandrine Mauron(1), Janina Hechler(1), Inga Schuldt(Jena/OG), Martina Hegering(Essen/OG)

Freiburg(43):
Klara Bühl(11), Sandra Starke(5), Hasret Kayikci(5), Janina Minge(4), Stefanie Sanders(3), Rebecca Knaak(3), Naomi Megroz(3), Lena Lotzen(2), Lisa Karl(1), Virginia Kirchberger(1), Marie Müller(1), Greta Stegemann(1), Meret Wittje(1), Verena Wieder(1), Jana Vojtekova(1)

Sand(24):
Dina Blagojevic(5), Franziska Fiebig(4), Viktoria Pinther(3), Ricarda Schaber(3), Anne van Bonn(2), Dörthe Hoppius(2), Nadine Prohaska(1), Michaela Brandenburg(1), Myrthe Moorrees(1), Agnieszka Winczo(1), Patrycja Balcerzak(1)

Duisburg(19):
Yvonne Zielinski(3), Antonia-Johanna Halverkamps(3), Kristina Maksuti(3), Geldona Morina(2), Nina Lange(2), Lisa Marie Makas(2), Alina Angerer(2), Danica Wu(1), Kathleen Radtke(1)

Leverkusen(22):
Ivana Rudelic(8), Milena Nikolic(5), Dora Zeller(4), Lena Uebach(2), Henrietta Csiszar(1), Jessica Wich(1), Francesca Calo(Köln/OG)

Köln(22):
Eunice Beckmann(4), Karoline Kohr(3), Lucia Ondrusova(3), Rachel Rinast(3), Isabelle Linden(2), Peggy Nietgen(2), Amber Barrett(2), Johanna Tietge(1), Sabrina Horvat(1), Yuka Hirano(1)

Jena(15):
Christin Meyer(3), Jitka Chlastakova(2), Maren Marie Tellenbröker(2), Karla Görlitz(2), Vanessa Fudalla(2), Merza Julevic(1), Julia Arnold(1), Anna Weiß(1), Lisa Seiler(1)

hotjam2 · Jul 8, 2020

Lohmann said: ↑

Hoffenheim(67):
Nicole Billa(18), Isabelle Hartig(12), Tabea Waßmuth(11), Lena Lattwein(5), Maximiliane Rall(4), Katharina Naschenweng(3), Jana Beuschlein(3), Anne Fühner(2), Fabienne Dongus(2), Leonie Pankratz(2), Luana Bühler(2), Paulina Käte Krumbiegel(1), Franziska Harsch(1),
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I'm pretty sure Wassmuth is credited with 12 goals. At one point, late in the 1st half of the season she was about the 2nd leading scorer in the league till an injury kept her out of the next 4-5 games. Only got to see a few of HOF's 1st half games, but was under the impression they were playing an 4-3-3(with Wassmuth being an fwd) but post Covid-19, it's obvious they were playing 4-1-4-1 with Wassmuth pushed to far-right end mid(which I feel kept her from scoring more).

The new offensive switch, made it taylor made for the lone central-striker(Billa) to score. Hartig(12 goals) along with Wassmuth was called up for the NT but vs an weaker Euro qualifier opponent(maybe Ukraine) but didn't get playing time(so still not capped). They didn't get chosen for either later, English friendly or the Algarve Cup. Hartig probably going to have a rougher times since German's currently so strong mid/central. Lattwein did get picked but she was capped all ready along with Rall by the former NT coach, Horst H). MVT didn't have place for Lattwein at mid, so turned her into an CB in the Norway game. Billa plays for Austria

Lohmann · Jul 8, 2020

hotjam2 said: ↑

I'm pretty sure Wassmuth is credited with 12 goals. At one point, late in the 1st half of the season she was about the 2nd leading scorer in the league till an injury kept her out of the next 4-5 games. Only got to see a few of HOF's 1st half games, but was under the impression they were playing an 4-3-3(with Wassmuth being an fwd) but post Covid-19, it's obvious they were playing 4-1-4-1 with Wassmuth pushed to far-right end mid(which I feel kept her from scoring more).

The new offensive switch, made it taylor made for the lone central-striker(Billa) to score. Hartig(12 goals) along with Wassmuth was called up for the NT but vs an weaker Euro qualifier opponent(maybe Ukraine) but didn't get playing time(so still not capped). They didn't get chosen for either later, English friendly or the Algarve Cup. Hartig probably going to have a rougher times since German's currently so strong mid/central. Lattwein did get picked but she was capped all ready along with Rall by the former NT coach, Horst H). MVT didn't have place for Lattwein at mid, so turned her into an CB in the Norway game. Billa plays for Austria
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DFB has 11 goals
https://datencenter.dfb.de/datencen...ga/2019-20/tsg-hoffenheim-29400#s18018_t29400
Köln(H) 2 goals
Freiburg(A) 4 goals
Duisburg(A) 1 goal
Essen(A) 1 goal
Freiburg(H) 1 goal
Duisburg(H) 1 goal
Frankfurt(H) 1 goal
The difference is the 5:0 in Sand which DFB gives to Naschenweng. The liveticker on DFB website gives it to Rall and soccerway gives it to Waßmuth.

Here is the video:
https://tv.dfb.de/video/highlights-sc-sand-vs-tsg-hoffenheim/27888/
The commentator says that it is not clear who touched the ball last.

I looked at the website of Hoffenheim and they said it was an own goal by van Bonn!
Has some a fifth goalscorer to offer?
The Sand website said that the fifth goal happened after a corner but don`t tell us who scored the goal.

hotjam2 · Jul 8, 2020

Lohmann said: ↑

DFB has 11 goals
https://datencenter.dfb.de/datencen...ga/2019-20/tsg-hoffenheim-29400#s18018_t29400
Köln(H) 2 goals
Freiburg(A) 4 goals
Duisburg(A) 1 goal
Essen(A) 1 goal
Freiburg(H) 1 goal
Duisburg(H) 1 goal
Frankfurt(H) 1 goal
The difference is the 5:0 in Sand which DFB gives to Naschenweng. The liveticker on DFB website gives it to Rall and soccerway gives it to Waßmuth.

Here is the video:
https://tv.dfb.de/video/highlights-sc-sand-vs-tsg-hoffenheim/27888/
The commentator says that it is not clear who touched the ball last.

I looked at the website of Hoffenheim and they said it was an own goal by van Bonn!
Has some a fifth goalscorer to offer?
The Sand website said that the fifth goal happened after a corner but don`t tell us who scored the goal.
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soocerdonna got Wassmuth with 12 goals
Bundesliga - scorer list - women's soccer on soccerdonna.de
so does Worldfootball.net
Women Bundesliga 2019/2020 » Top Scorer
as well as Wiki!
2019–20 Frauen-Bundesliga - Wikipedia

but one goal less doesn't take away Wassmuth's strong performqnce as shown in the vid where her breakaways on the right side caused wide spread panic among the Sand defenders.which eventually led to goals. In my bookk she oshould been on the league's 1st team all-star(if they awarded that in the Bundesliga)

from what I've read while still playing full time soccer, Tabea attending the U of Mainz to become an psychologist, Hopefully she still stck with soccer once she gets her major, though can't blame if she quits since psychologists probably make whloe lot more money than 99% of current woso pro's!

Lohmann · Jul 9, 2020

hotjam2 said: ↑

soocerdonna got Wassmuth with 12 goals
Bundesliga - scorer list - women's soccer on soccerdonna.de
so does Worldfootball.net
Women Bundesliga 2019/2020 » Top Scorer
as well as Wiki!
2019–20 Frauen-Bundesliga - Wikipedia

but one goal less doesn't take away Wassmuth's strong performqnce as shown in the vid where her breakaways on the right side caused wide spread panic among the Sand defenders.which eventually led to goals. In my bookk she oshould been on the league's 1st team all-star(if they awarded that in the Bundesliga)

from what I've read while still playing full time soccer, Tabea attending the U of Mainz to become an psychologist, Hopefully she still stck with soccer once she gets her major, though can't blame if she quits since psychologists probably make whloe lot more money than 99% of current woso pro's!
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The German Wiki has also Waßmuth with twelve goals despite giving DFB as reference.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fußball-Bundesliga_2019/20_(Frauen)
I had also listed Waßmuth as goalscorer in this thread although I use the DFB website as source.
The only reasonable explanation is that DFB has originally given the goal to Waßmuth but changed it to Naschenwang after reviewing the goal later. DFB didn`t communicate the change so that we now have different goalscorer lists.

I thought Waßmuth is at the university of Mannheim.
https://www.uni-mannheim.de/stipend...pendiatinnen-und-stipendiaten/tabea-wassmuth/

hotjam2 · Jul 10, 2020

Klingo3034 said: ↑

I’m thinking the younger athletic players are already technical In Germany and just need emphasis on being more stronger and faster.
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Their way more technical, but thanks to Jorgie Low’s apparent iron fist over the German soccer program, they produce an abundance of world class mids. but unfortunately lacked a top striker or even CB. This total futebol concept of(where any player can play any position) has become quite lame(as proven by the Jorgie disaster at both the last men’s & women’s WC).

It feels like MVT is beginning to understand this(that you got to prep world class fwds), but with the 4 top teams in the league top goal scorer foreigners, there’s still a lot work to be done in producing a top striker.

the German soccer Fed just announced that 1.1 million females are currently playing soccer in the country. So hopefully this will lead to better producing fwds. And of course hopefully they will fire Jorgie(who lead them to their worst showing ever in an WC)

hotjam2 · Jul 11, 2020

if I’m understanding the updated rules about new signees playing in the CL, then Hendrich, Bremer & Oberdorf can play in that upcoming tourney(as well as Schuller & Buhl for BM). Hopefully both teams get some practice games in as Lyon’s already announced a half dozen friendlies prior to the CL

hotjam2 · Jul 14, 2020

nooooooo!, one of the best 1v1 players leaves the Bundesliga, Turid Knaak signs with Athletico Madrid(well, at least she’ll get to play in the CL)

Lohmann · Jul 14, 2020

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nooooooo!, one of the best 1v1 players leaves the Bundesliga, Turid Knaak signs with Athletico Madrid(well, at least she’ll get to play in the CL)
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I`m surprised because she is working at the University of Cologne. Now she can play in the CL against Barcelona next month and possibly against Wolfsburg in the semifinal.

[🎙] Primeras palabras de @turid10 como rojiblanca ☺

✍ "Estoy feliz y emocionada. Soy muy ambiciosa y quiero ganar títulos con el Atlético"

🔴⚪ #AúpaAtleti | #BienvenidaKnaak pic.twitter.com/VytmumsW0c
— Atlético de Madrid Femenino (@AtletiFemenino) July 14, 2020

Thomsen · Jul 15, 2020

Turid Knaak’s had like one regent game for the NT and should be axed

Lohmann · Jul 15, 2020

Anja Mittag has finished her career as player.

Anja #Mittag has ended her playing career and will now focus on her responsibilities in the coaching team.

Congratulations on a truly outstanding career and all the best for the future, @mittag31 👏

🔴⚪ #DieRotenBullen pic.twitter.com/0QUGlT5CpF
— RB Leipzig English (@RBLeipzig_EN) July 15, 2020

Klingo3034 · Jul 15, 2020

Lohmann said: ↑

Anja Mittag has finished her career as player.

Anja #Mittag has ended her playing career and will now focus on her responsibilities in the coaching team.

Congratulations on a truly outstanding career and all the best for the future, @mittag31 👏

🔴⚪ #DieRotenBullen pic.twitter.com/0QUGlT5CpF
— RB Leipzig English (@RBLeipzig_EN) July 15, 2020

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Thats too bad, and the team just got promoted to Division 1.

blissett · Jul 15, 2020

Lohmann said: ↑

Anja Mittag has finished her career as player.

Anja #Mittag has ended her playing career and will now focus on her responsibilities in the coaching team.

Congratulations on a truly outstanding career and all the best for the future, @mittag31 👏

🔴⚪ #DieRotenBullen pic.twitter.com/0QUGlT5CpF
— RB Leipzig English (@RBLeipzig_EN) July 15, 2020

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A great one. Since she's 35, we could see that coming, but her retirement can't anyway go unnoticed.

Although her whole career was more than just that, I will always tie my memory of her to the era when 1.FCC Turbine Potsdam was a dominating force in Europe.

Lohmann · Jul 15, 2020

Anja Mittag`s 50 goals for Germany:

2005 (2)
Norway Algarve Cup
Italy Euro

2007 (3)
Denmark Algarve Cup (2)
Netherlands Euro Q

2008 (1)
North Korea Olympic Games

2009 (2)
Brazil friendly
Norway Euro

2010 (2)
China Algarve Cup (2)

2012 (5)
Iceland Algarve Cup
Switzerland Euro Q
Kazakhstan Euro Q
Turkey Euro Q
USA friendly

2013 (8)
USA friendly
Norway Euro
Slovenia World Cup Q (3)
Slovakia World Cup Q (2)
Croatia World Cup Q

2014 (8)
China Algarve Cup
Norway Algarve Cup
Japan Algarve Cup
Slovenia World Cup Q (2)
Slovakia World Cup Q (2)
Ireland World Cup Q

2015 (8)
China Algarve Cup
Sweden Algarve Cup
Ivory Coast World Cup (3)
Norway World Cup
Sweden World Cup
Turkey Euro Q

2016 (10)
USA She Believes Cup
Turkey Euro Q
Croatia Euro Q
Ghana friendly (4)
Austria friendly (2)
Netherlands friendly

2017 (1)
England She Believes Cup

This was her most important goal

blissett · Jul 15, 2020

Lohmann said: ↑

This was her most important goal

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It was for sure her most important goal, but it was served to her on a silver platter by Celia Sasic (back then still, not for long, Okoyino da Mbabi).

Lohmann · Jul 15, 2020

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It was for sure her most important goal, but it was served to her on a silver platter by Celia Sasic (back then still, not for long, Okoyino da Mbabi).
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I guess you will also like Mittag`s goal in this game

blissett · Jul 15, 2020

Lohmann said: ↑

I guess you will also like Mittag`s goal in this game
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No, I don't.

Also, Japan should have been 1-0 in 1st Half for a goal not seen by the referee.

Lohmann · Jul 15, 2020

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No, I don't.

Also, Japan should have been 1-0 in 1st Half for a goal not seen by the referee.
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It is impossible to judge that without goal-line technology.