Bundesliga 2019-20, better than a shot of Jagermeister!

Discussion in 'Germany Mädels: NT and Frauen-Bundesliga' started by hotjam2, Jul 19, 2019.

  1. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    HOF went into one of those massive sub routines & that’s led unfortunately to another POTS goal
     
  2. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    noticing it ends Bayern Munich 3, Essen 0, so even if HOF won their's it wouldn't of mattered). Like I've said, would of been bad for German soccer overall if BM wasn't able to compete for the Champion's League next year.considering all the big stars they've signed up for next season

    Koln should be eliminated, but wonder if their going to make a special appeal?(since their dragging down some good players that they've signed up for next season)
     
  3. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    I guess Schweers is done in Munich too? Looked very emotional after today’s game
     
  4. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    There’s going to be a lot of new transfers after 6/30(the date when yearly contracts ends). I’ve read rumors of Simon, Hendrich & Rosler leaving too.
    Then got to wonder about Leupolz? Everybody was saying she just wanted to play in Chelsea cuz her boyfriend, Sami Khedira was going to sign a major contract with nearby West Ham, but so far he’s days he’s happy staying in Italy. So got to wonder if she has a change of mind?

    btw..... rumor has it that your girl, Siems, signing with Ashton Villa(not sure if their an 1st division club!)
     
  5. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Potsdam-Hoffenheim 2:1(1:1)
    Chmielinski(1),Lindner(80) - Dongus(19)

    Jena-Duisburg 0:2(0:2)
    Zielinski(26),Angerer(45)

    Köln-Sand 1:0(0:0)
    Barrett(62)

    Wolfsburg-Leverkusen 5:0(3:0)
    Jakabfi(16),Popp(20),Rolfö(40),Engen(66),Harder(78)

    Essen-Bayern 0:3(0:1)
    Magull(45+3),Dallmann(72),Damnjanovic(74p)

    Frankfurt-Freiburg 0:2(0:1)
    Kayikci(29),Starke(88)

    1.Wolfsburg 62 93-8
    2.Bayern 54 60-14
    3.Hoffenheim 49 67-24
    4.Potsdam 37 52-45
    5.Essen 35 41-39
    6.Frankfurt 33 44-47
    7.Freiburg 31 43-47
    8.Sand 25 24-43
    9.Duisburg 17 19-47
    10.Leverkusen 17 22-51
    11.Köln 17 22-60
    12.Jena 4 15-77
     
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  6. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Rolser has ended her career today.
     
  7. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    You mean Aston Villa? That team just got promoted to FA WSL. So they want to get some legit pros in the team. Funny enough the men's team got relegated. Opposite of Liverpool women vs men. Champions vs relegated.
     
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  8. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    I haven’t said that much about Siems... :p

    It’s a pity that Leupolz is leaving Bayern, she will be deeply missed...
     
  9. hotjam2

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    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
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  10. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The ten best and ten worst teams since 1997:
    1.1.FFC Frankfurt 63 78-16 2004/05
    2.VfL Wolfsburg 62 93-8 2019/20
    3.Turbine Potsdam 61 96-17 2003/04
    4.FCR Duisburg 60 85-10 1999/2000
    5.1.FFC Frankfurt 60 91-17 2006/07
    6.Turbine Potsdam 59 115-13 2005/06
    7.1.FFC Frankfurt 59 96-11 1998/99
    8.VfL Wolfsburg 59 94-11 2018/19
    9.Turbine Potsdam 59 84-15 2009/10
    10.Turbine Potsdam 58 67-17 2010/11

    1.FFC Brauweiler Pulheim 0 15-100 2006/07
    2.FSV Frankfurt 1 5-142 2005/06
    3.1.FC Saarbrücken 1 7-115 2003/04
    4.Borussia Mönchengladbach 1 7-110 2018/19
    5.VfL Sindelfingen 2 4-123 2013/14
    6.TuS Niederkirchen 2 10-77 2002/03
    7.USV Jena 4 15-77 2019/20
    8.Herforder SV Borussia Friedenstal 5 18-89 2014/15
    9.TSV Crailsheim 5 14-79 2008/09
    10.Hamburger SV 5 17-78 1997/98

    Until 1997 the Bundesliga had a Northern and a Southern division. All teams have 22 games.
     
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  11. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Lohmann; Turrid Knaak leaving Essen, but where? Please don’t tell me out of Germany!
     
  12. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Essen is losing everyone :rolleyes:
     
  13. hotjam2

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    Nov 23, 2012
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  14. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    She is working at the university in Cologne. I would interpret the cryptic comment of her coach as 1.FC Köln.
     
  15. Thomsen

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    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    So, I don't think there's any reason for Wolfsburg or Bayern to lose to any teams next season as we've seen clubs like Potsdam, Freiburg, SGS Essen drained of their best players over the last years, we now have a clearer 2-horse-race for the championship... perhaps someone will surprise like Hoffenheim this season, but it won't be enough to challenge particularly Wolfsburg... :unsure:

    Do we think Bayern can beat Wolfsburg next season? They tied Wolfsburg twice this season, and I don't think Wolfsburg is as good as they were with Fischer, Graham Hansen, and Gunnarsdottir, but they are still a great team of course, but it will be interesting to see who's replacing Gunnarsdottir in that midfield next season. I hope Oberdorf will because Engen and Gössling didn't look particularly good in midfield against Bayern in their last match, and then it's also question marks if the likes of Doorsoun, Wedemeyer, and Rauch can step up their game in that defense :unsure: Doorsoun has been a lot injured this season, while Rauch is a hard one to judge as Wolfsburg is way stronger than Potsdam and she had her problems in Potsdam although she's undeniably their first choice. Wedemeyer has been pretty good from what I've seen from her, but she's no natural fullback and she's not able to beat neither Gössling nor Bloodworth for a permanent CB spot. I think Bloodworth's been a really good replacement for Fischer in that defense, and Gössling has a really high standing in the team so Lerch won't ever leave her on the bench, but perhaps she will move up to midfield next season... and Gössling's still going strong so there's no real reason to put her on the bench.

    Bayern's also now facing a future without Leupolz in the midfield, she will be missed, but I think Lohmann's got what it takes to cover that spot just fine, she's very talented. Wenninger and Demann are a pretty solid CB pairing, and I've always been impressed by Demann when she plays, but she struggles with injuries, which is a pity. Same with Laudehr, but she doesn't look that great as a CB if I'm fair and I prefer Wenninger and Demann. Simon is a pretty good LB, but has some real issues with her pace. Hendrich has been benched lately, and while she's a solid RB, she's not great in that position either as I think a defensive midfield role would suit her better, or even the CB position she played under Jones.

    I also think it's a pity that Däbritz, Rolfö and Roord left the club last season, especially Däbritz and Rolfö because Gwinn and Beerensteyn are not the same on the wings. While Gwinn's been pretty good this season, when she's played, I feel like she shined more during her time in Freiburg ... under the same coach, but she was injured this season, and hopefully, her Instagram fame doesn't ruin the potentially great future she might have. Schüller and Bühl are great signings, also Hanna Glas and Zadrazil are solid as well, so it will be really interesting to see Bayern next season as they have a great squad available, and will in my eyes have a stronger squad than this season as they're not really letting any key-players go, except Leupolz of course.
     
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  16. hotjam2

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    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
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    Bayern will have a way stronger offense next year when they’ll include Buhl, Schuller & Asseyi(4th leading scorer in the French league). With those 3 they can bring Dallmann back to midfield.

    got to ask this question; MVT considers Oberdorf to be one of the 10 top field players in Germany(obviously since she started her in the most recently vs Sweden & England). If you watched her vs BM yesterday, do you think she looked like one of the top ten best players? I mean, she might of not accomplished much at AM cuz of the lower caliber of her team mates, but then look how she fouled at a dangerous spot which gave to the Magull free kick/goal. Then fouled this time in the PK area(which BM scored on too. And I got to ask; am I’m the only one that‘s NOT too impressed with her?

    but otherwise despite all the top quality players being bought off from the bottom ten & the part time coaches, German woso goes way deep & there’s always those nuggets like Hoffenheim to keep things interesting
     
  17. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    Are there limits how many players in each team? Surely other teams can get good players.
     
  18. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

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    #243 hotjam2, Jun 30, 2020
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    There’s no salary caps on how much a team can spend, but it seems within the Bundi only BM & WOL are giving real pro salaries. If you look at 3rd & 4th places teams(HOF & POT) their average roster age would be the early 20’s. So similar to US/college where once you graduate, majority tend to retire from soccer in search of a real job/ maybe a few might stick around in hopes of getting picked up by an richer club.
    What gets me is how the bottom ten clubs play a full season(9 months, plus preseason) without much compensation? But then again if you look that woso is dominated by the richer countries in the world, just like the US, it’s parents that are still supporting their kids while their playing soccer(no matter what age, lol)

    just speculating however as info can be hard to come by
     
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  19. Thomsen

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    Aug 6, 2016
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    FC Bayern München
    #244 Thomsen, Jun 30, 2020
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2020
    Oberdorf’s been good for the NT, looked confused against Bayern

    Hendrich is leaving Bayern... curious if she didn’t want to extend her contract or if she wasn’t offered a new one...
    Schweers too
     
  20. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I hope they don’t go to England, it’s been a graveyard for German player’s careers as Kemme, Simic. Banuch all announced retirements due to injuries while playing over there, meanwhile it took Bremer a whole two years to recover from knee surgery.

    I was under the impression that men’s clubs, Eintracht & Hertha, will take over Frankfurt & Potsdam for next season. So hopefully that means more spending money(do let’s keep our fingers crossed that Hendrich & Schweers head over there).
    But saddening is that Koln will be relegated even though with new added money they bought Islacker, Beck & Lotzen as well as possibly Knaak? for next year. So taking some really decent players out of Div 1 too
     
  21. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Turbine Potsdam and Hertha BSC have just a cooperation.
     
  22. Thomsen

    Thomsen Member+

    Aug 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Kemme’s career went to hell because of injuries...

    I see, Hendrich to Wolfsburg...
     
  23. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    Playing in FA WSL is like playing in the EPL, its very physical.
     
  24. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Now WOB’s going to have 5 of MVT’s premium starters vs 3 for BM, though it’s 8 vs 7 for BM out of the 26 players currently rostered on the NT.

    with those two clubs looking even more dominant by next year, got to wonder the pro’s & cons;
    on one hand Oberdorf & Buhl might become better while playing with better team mates, but on the other side of the coin, how are they going to improve when 10 out of 11 of their Bundi opponents are going to be so significantly weaker?
    Germans can play an physical game, but they frown upon producing an physical type player, rather they proudly like to bring up more technically advanced ones.
    One of the interesting statements ever made was from the Iceland coach after his team beat the Germans during an WC qualifier, he said “all Germans play alike”, meaning their so predictable. Got the feeling current coach MVT understands this so is looking for that right combination of technical, physical & athletic players in some of her newer recruits. But then she still wants to play Jorgie Low’s system of interchangeable players where you can’t tell the difference if their an attacker, midfielder or defender. So it goes right back again to what the Iceland coach originally said; all German play alike!
     
  25. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    DFB-Pokal finals with Wolfsburg or Essen:
    1984: SSG Bergisch-Gladbach - VfR Eintracht Wolfsburg 2:0(1:0)
    2013: VfL Wolfsburg - Turbine Potsdam 3:2(1:0)
    2014: 1.FFC Frankfurt - SGS Essen 3:0(3:0)
    2015: VfL Wolfsburg - Turbine Potsdam 3:0(1:0)
    2016: VfL Wolfsburg - SC Sand 2:1(1:1)
    2017: VfL Wolfsburg - SC Sand 2:1(0:0)
    2018: VfL Wolfsburg - Bayern München 0:0aet Penalties:3:2
    2019: VfL Wolfsburg - SC Freiburg 1:0(0:0)

    The last defeat of Wolfsburg was in November 2013 a 0:1 at 1.FFC Frankfurt.
    2014/15
    Holstein Kiel 5:1(A)
    BV Cloppenburg 8:0(H)
    SC Sand 2:1aet(H)
    SC Freiburg 4:2aet(A)
    Turbine Potsdam 3:0

    2015/16
    DJK-VfL Billerbeck 19:0(A)
    SGS Essen 2:1(H)
    Turbine Potsdam 3:0(A)
    SC Freiburg 2:1(H)
    SC Sand 2:1

    2016/17
    1.FFC Fortuna Dresden 9:0(A)
    Arminia Bielefeld 2:0(A)
    Bayern München 2:0(A)
    SC Freiburg 2:1aet(A)
    SC Sand 2:1

    2017/18
    1.FC Union Berlin 6:0(A)
    BV Cloppenburg 5:0(A)
    SC Sand 2:1(H)
    SGS Essen 4:1(H)
    Bayern München 0:0aet 3:2 penalties

    2018/19
    Hannover 96 11:0(A)
    FC Forstern 9:0(A)
    Turbine Potsdam 4:0(H)
    Bayern München 4:0(A)
    SC Freiburg 1:0

    2019/20
    SpVg Berghofen 2:0(A)
    Bayern München 3:1(A)
    FSV Gütersloh 2009 3:0(A)
    Arminia Bielefeld 5:0(A)

    Wolfsburg goalscorers in finals:
    Martina Müller(4),Jakabfi(2),Harder(2),Pohlers(1),Popp(1),Pajor(1)

    Anna Blässe has played in all 6 won finals.
     
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