Buffy thread (back from the dead) [R]

Unfortunately I got a look at this weeks new ep and Giles is not dead, as most of us knew anyway..

 

I'm willing to bet Giles survived. My guess is he's still got the protection of the coven from his battle with Willow, 'cause that axe was *really* close to his head.

Later,
COZ

 

Honestly, is there any way this show can be any better?

"Hush" just became my 2nd All-time favorite BTVS episode after tonight, and folks, it's only going to get better..

Ubervamp doesn't look like much physically but he basically beat the crap out of Buffy.. UV obviously has better moves than his lame vamp counterparts and the whole not dying while being staked in the heart is a definite plus for his side...


I still don't know where I fall on the whole Principal Wood issue.. Gotta love that little smirk of his after telling Buffy that some people aren't who they appear to be..

Is he good? Is he bad? Who the Hell knows?

Buffy's speech at the end was awe inspiring, though I find it very difficult to think of a way to actually beat The First Evil, much less his creepy Ubervamp..

Who wants to put a Ben Franklin on the fact that Dawn being the Key will play a major role when all this gets hammered out? It would make sense seeing that Dawn has been a non-factor thus far in season 7.. Then again, if nothing comes of it, I wouldn't be too shocked either..


Great, great episode.. I can't believe they are actually contemplating ending the show after this season..

Mine as well go out on a high note rather than be cancelled midseason....

 

That was probably my favorite Buffy ever. They better not crap out and kill the ubervamp in some cheap way. He gave Buffy the worst beatdown she's had. I'm not sure why he didn't kill her though.

I think you're right about Dawn being the key coming into play at some point.

I'm still not convinced that Giles isn't dead. They never explained how he escaped getting his head whacked off. He also explained that the "ghosts" are only of people that have died. So maybe he's one. He could be manipulating the slayers in traing as well as the rest of the gang in some yet as known way.

This episode also has the bext innuendo ever. When Willow was trying to set up the sleeping arangements for the slayers in trainging, and the one girl kept nixing everything. Willow finally asks if she wants to do it, and she says yes. Then in a very suggestive way she tells Willow that she better not hog the covers. This gets Willow all flustered, and Dawn comes around the corner form the kitchen and asks "does she want to eat...?" Willow expression was priceless.

 

The genius of the entire series is based in some small way on innuendo..

In every episode there always seems to be some underlying current of sexual tension, or recall of past events or whatever..

This in my opinion is what seperates it from other shows on television..

Newbies to BTVS wouldn't even contemplate on guessing half of the inside jokes or references that are constantly being made on each episode..

You have to be a dork like me and watch all the episodes from begining to end on the FX Network to catch the real flavor of the series..

Believe it or not, this time last year I was watching BTVS for the first time and now it is simply the best show ever made on TV in my opinion...

 

Entertaining as hell, but I found myself with a bunch of questions after.

--Either Giles is dead or there was a major league cop-out about that axe. Given Whedon's history, I think a cop-out is less likely. I can't remember; did he touch anybody?
--Why did the Uber Vamp stop in the 2nd fight? It's not sun up, and there's no indication that anybody else was coming around or that TFE had other things for him to do.
--The bit where Willow's spell goes bad is more than slightly confusing. If TFE could do that, why have psychic dead poet girl tell Willow not to use magic?
--Either the principle is dead or there's a bunch of information we don't have that would be necessary to explain why he occasionally does TFE's bidding.

They're out on the ragged edge where a really great and dangerous villain turns into one that can't possibly be defeated within the logic of the story. I'm really annoyed that it will be at least 3 weeks before we get another new installment.

 

My takes

- Giles is dead. Ya think he would have mentioned that they had even come after him if he had survived

- I think the principal is on the good side. Not sure who or what he is but I think he is going to come out as a good guy.

Oh yeah - while Buffy has gotten better this year I still don't think it holds a candle to 24. 24 was ten times better than Buffy last night and Buffy was pretty damn good.

 

Not only didn't Giles touch anyone, I don't remeber him even picking any object up. He didn't knock at the door either, Buffy just opened it and he was there.

I also question why the ubervamp stopped. Although immediately after they found Buffy, the shot cut to The First/Drusilla telling Spike the only reason he's alive is because she wanted it that way. I took it to mean the same as to why Buffy was alive.

As for Willow's magic going awry and all that. No answer on my part.

I think the Principle will turn out to be Council Member or Watcher or something. Definately on the good side. At least that's my feeling.

 

I'm coming around on Giles as well. Now I think he's dead. I ALSO think that the ghost of Buffy's mom is really her, and is really trying to help. Both of those somehow relate to Buffy and sleep deprivation.

Later,
COZ

 

Just giving this thread a little nudge towards the top cause the new episodes are ready to roll on Tuesday night...

Is Principal Wood a baddie or good guy?

Is Giles really dead?

Is Willow gonna get a new love interest?

Will Dawn being the Key have a big part before it all ends?

When will Faith make her return?


All will be answered soon I hope....

 

I think Giles is dead, given the facts that:

1. Last we saw him, he was about to be liberated of his head.
2. The First can only take the form of the dead.
3. Giles (like The First playing at Ghost Joyce) encouraged Buffy to just get some rest, and not push herself so hard.
4. After Buffy's fight with the Ubervamp underground, he blocked out the just-rising sun that would have otherwise dusted the Ubervamp.

But it could be classic misdirection.

Either way, this crap had better start making sense soon.

 

First (no pun intended, really), I think Giles and Joyce encouraging Buffy to rest has massive significance, and I don't think it's an evil trap. Not all ghosts have to be bad.

Second, #4 actually is the best evidence I've seen so far that he's NOT dead. What with being able to actually block the sun and all.

Wow. TV is all new again. Weird.

Later,
COZ

 

A juicy little nugget from E!Online...

Buffy and Principal Wood go out on a date later this season..

You know what they say - "Once you go -------"

You know the rest..


I sort of sensed a little attraction between the two....

 

More nuggets for Tuesday's episode..

A new SIT is coming on board - her name is Rona..

Also, Kennedy steps up her pursuit of Willow..

That's all for now....


P.S. - on a side note, has anyone else bothered to notice how incredibly beautiful Willow has become over the years? She was always in that "cutesy" category but has now become a full fledged beautiful woman..

I really didn't like her with short hair at all, a little too butch for me, but with her hair growing out and her earthy type of look (not much if any makeup - which by the way is damn sexy) she has rocketed past SMG in my opinion for overall beauty..

Just my .02...

 

A little disappointed with this episode..

Not suprising though seeing how there were so many good ones in a row before this one.


A couple of quibbles from me..

Since when did Buffy, Willow and Xander have the power of telepathy? I'm assuming Willow used her magics for them to do that...

Also, since when did Buffy become a mob hitman? That was a pretty lame ending to Ubervamp considering she got her ass kicked by him in the previous episode.. I think they kind of wasted him a little too early..

Nice eye ball thingy working there....

Nice relatively unspoken moment there between Buffy and Spike at the end.....

I bet Buffy can't wait to hear that she is the reason why The First has come back to town..

For all the Giles conspiracists out there, Giles was most definitely leaning against a table of sorts in the house.. Kinda tough to do if he was dead, with the touching and all...

There was no previews for the next episode.. Does this mean yet another repeat next week?

 

The whole telepathy thing came out of nowhere. I no longer believe that Giles is dead, although I'd still like to see how he escaped with his head. A technical nitpick, but the fight with the ubervamp was terribly edited. It was the choppiest fight scene I've seen on Buffy. Hope they're not going back to repeats next week, although Angel will be new, so that's something.

 

What am I missing?

According to the TV guide I just looked at, Angel isn't on at all next week (in favor of that High School Reunion show) and Buffy isn't on at all either in favor of some show that I can't remember.

Has Angel switched times without my noticing?

 

Next week only, Buffy is being pre-empted by an all-UPN clip show.

Angel has moved to Wednesday's at 9, and there is a new episode next week.