BSMX's Official Mexican National Team Random Thoughts Thread vol. II

Discussion in 'Mexico National Team' started by DGreat, Feb 17, 2014.

  1. la fresa

    la fresa Member+

    Oct 31, 2005
    texas
    Club:
    Serbian White Eagles
    Anyone know anything about this coach?
     
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  2. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    All of those cashgrabs are holding back all of CONCACAF. Not just El Tri and the US, but all of CONCACAF.

    FFS, before Gold Cup was permanently installed in the US, even Trinidad & Tobago made the WC, and gave the Germans a decent fight.

    Having an annual CONCACAF tournament, always in the US, but with a different title does nothing to lift the quality of football in this part of the world.

    Every other confederation at least rotates hosting, so that the smaller nations and mid-major ones have to lift their games.
     
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  3. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
     
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  4. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
     
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  5. la fresa

    la fresa Member+

    Oct 31, 2005
    texas
    Club:
    Serbian White Eagles
    Agreed, all good points. While the rest of the world is making up ground vs euro teams, concacaf will fall behind more and more with each decade because of their greed and incompetence both at the club and national level
     
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  6. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Without question.

    Having the same tournament at the same place every year creates a dependency among the smaller and mid-majors in CONCACAF. For the bigger nations in the region, always playing the same teams in the same places dulls the competitive rigor of having travel, play, and win in hostile environments.

    Yes, the cashgrabbing can make some Caribbean official rich, but it makes the football poorer.


    I'd much rather see El Tri or the USMNT have to struggle to play away from home, because that's how a program grows. I'd rather see continental tournaments be less common, and more special, by having them more infrequently.

    I'd rather see the smaller and mid-majors grow, much like a Belgium, Portugal, or Croatia have. Having these mid-majors host a tournament every once in awhile forces them to improve both on and off the pitch.


    Taken together, a rising tide could lift all boats in CONCACAF. Unfortunately, we have the opposite around these parts.
     
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  7. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    or we get our player to top champions league teams to play with the elite day in and day out. not much we can do about our confederation.
     
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  8. Pichichis

    Pichichis Member

    Club America
    Mexico
    Jun 19, 2023
    The only way that Mexico can improve, is to limit foreigner spots in the Mexican league. No more mediocre Ecuadorean, Colombia and Argentinean players. If they're bring players from there, they should be much better than the current crop.
     
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  9. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I somewhat agree, but that has to be accompanied by more minutes for youngsters, and perhaps a cap on excision clauses, at least for Euro countries.
     
  10. Sanchito

    Sanchito Member+

    Jul 15, 2005
    an island in my mind
     
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  11. GrandeSoccer

    GrandeSoccer Member+

    Jun 20, 2010
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico


    The goat

    I would've loved to see this team at the 2024 Copa America. Beat Jamaica by multiple goals, school Ecuador for the umpteenth time, and this squad would've comfortably defeated fvcking VENEZUELA. All that's left is to beat Canada in the qfs and it's an ez sf run. If we couldnt make it past the argies in the semis then Uruguay in the 3rd place match was beatable.

    Damn that would've been fire.
     
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  12. la fresa

    la fresa Member+

    Oct 31, 2005
    texas
    Club:
    Serbian White Eagles
    Wonder what would have been if Chepo had just let Vela crack the trans women, if Hugo wouldn’t have coached the Olympic team, if turco or Almada would have been given a chance. We put ourselves in the situations which make vasco the best, which isn’t saying a lot. He’s above average, but he shouldn’t have coached 3 of the world cups in my lifetime
     
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  13. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Hugo should have definitely gotten the chance to finish his cycle. His senior team was great to watch, it sucks that he lost the gold cup to one of the once in a lifetime shot by the nads.
     
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  14. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Canning Hugo was such a stupid move from the FMF. The senior squad was actually competitive and Hugo wasn’t afraid to call up young players to try out

    He’s not totally at fault for the Olympics qualifying fiasco. It’s not his fault bums like Esqueda, Santi Fernandez, Landin, etc. did not know how to score
     
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  15. Miguel Myers

    Miguel Myers Member+

    Dec 3, 2011
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
     
  16. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    More competition, if he’s good enough to beat them out the. No problem
     
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  17. Miguel Myers

    Miguel Myers Member+

    Dec 3, 2011
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
     
  18. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Bright kid, he graduated young.
     
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  19. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
     
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  20. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund

    Of course.
     
  21. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
     
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  22. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Just hope they actually put that money used to invest to good use and not just pocket it themselves
     
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  23. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I believe in Claudia and lillini. The right support can get this going for us.
     
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  24. la fresa

    la fresa Member+

    Oct 31, 2005
    texas
    Club:
    Serbian White Eagles
    That is really huge. I’ve seen similar such programs spoken about in France and Japan.
     
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  25. DGreat

    DGreat Moderator
    Staff Member

    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Ligue 1 has a similar rule like LigaMX but I believe theirs is playing u-18 French players. So a bit younger
     
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