Bruce's obsession with Chris Albright...

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by jri, Dec 2, 2003.

  1. jri

    jri Red Card

    Sep 28, 2000
    boca
    Did he REALLY deserve call-up into Dec camp? Sheesh...
     
  2. voodoodiver

    voodoodiver Member

    Jun 21, 2002
    FLL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is a joke, right?
     
  3. cyberthoth

    cyberthoth Member+

    Nashville SC
    Aug 7, 2000
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    first it's just a camp...he hasn't started him in a real match yet.

    secondly...i think bruce sees something in albright the rest of us don't. he has speed, height, workrate...what he lacks is a soccer's mind and scorer's mentality.

    perhaps the bruce wants to try him out at right back...it worked with sanneh.
     
  4. jri

    jri Red Card

    Sep 28, 2000
    boca
    (Speed, height, workrate)..hell, let's just find then...some struggling NBA or NFL player.....train 'em for a year or 2, and then cap 'em....if speed, height, workrate is what this is all about.....let's get PLAYERS out there....I'm a bit tired of the "American soccer player a good athlete cliche"..

    Chris is an OK player, but if Bruce is going to give a thousand chances over the years...then other guys deserve the same (thousand chances)...where was/is Ralston's thousand chances? Kreis? etc
     
  5. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is Chris Albright the next Sanneh? Might be possible - he actually did pretty well when Sigi Schmid had him fill in at right wingback.
     
  6. Northcal19

    Northcal19 New Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    Celtic Tavern LODO (
    And touch....and skill....and a left foot....and ability...
     
  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm with Elninho. A while back, I suggested Albright get a runout at RB. I think this was back during the Victorine experiment. My biggest reservation is that Chris doesn't strike me as a terribly intelligent player. It'll be hard for him to make the adjustment. But he's got alot of the attributes that the US could use at right back. I mean, remember, we used Frankie Hejduk at right wingback against Germany. And while Sanneh was phenomenal at the Cup, his play there was a definite outlier.

    It's sad that it's a smart gamble to try out Chris at that spot, but there you have it.

    Anyway, to bring it back to Hejduk...Chris is almost as fast, has aLOT more size, and more ball skill.
     
  8. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Albright

    All this about Albright maybe, possibly deserving a look is true.

    It is also true that there is a U.S. national team soccer clique. Arena's kid isn't much of a player but Bradley will give him a shot. Bradley's kid isn't much of a player but by golly, he'll also be in MLS each year. They're known quantities. So is Albright, as 1) a former U.S. youth national teamer, and 2) a former DCUer.

    A player with similar ability to Albright and similar MLS achievements but who was from outside the clique would be unlikely to be receiving the same invitation.
     
  9. Northcal19

    Northcal19 New Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    Celtic Tavern LODO (
    Re: Albright

    You got that right. He is simply mediocre, but god dammit we are gonna fit him in somewhere!!
     
  10. Brushes Sand

    Brushes Sand Member

    Oct 12, 2000
    polychronicqatsitime
    Re: Albright

    Bingo.

    I've watched AllDim in person and on TV
    a hundred times now, and i'm fairly certain
    he couldn't make Nepal's first selection.
    At any position. Not even Wallace Jackson
    would fear for his job.

    Chris AllDim is the Prototypical "Collegian
    Athelete" that will not exists in MLS in
    5 years, regardless of expansion.

    He has almost no skill, and even worse,
    has no idea he has no skill, and is totally
    out of place, as evidenced by the Cigar
    he lit up in Harrisburg when we qualified
    for Sydney.

    So why does the Bruce do this?

    I'm convinced Bruce does this for one reason:
    he always brings in one "Fool" selection to make
    it clear who is in charge.

    Last cycle, "The il Bruce Arena Fool Selection"
    (TIBAFS) was the ABMOD.

    ABMOD was not brought in because Bruce
    likes his workrate and he was a "known quantity";
    ABMOD was brought in because he was "in"
    the Clique, and his presence proved who
    was in charge.

    There is no better candidate for the TIBAFS slot
    in this next cycle than AllDim, who barely belongs
    in MLS, and if not for expansion looming would
    be out of the League permanently.

    There is an additional dynamic to the "Clique";
    if you are "in" and have contract issues looming,
    or are looking for your next home, and need to
    be "showcased" or "validated", you get the call.

    Example Primo Numero Uno: Jovan Kirovski.

    My feelings about all this?

    Unlike many other Dallasites who repeatedly
    call out Bruce for looking over Dallas players
    (part of the League-Fed anti-Dallas passive
    Conspiracy, which really does exist) I have no
    problem with one and ONLY ONE camp/cap
    slot going to a TIBAFS player because The Bruce
    is God for Korea, and will remain so until he
    crashes in flames*.

    *-interpretation of "Crashing in Flames" tbd.

    -bs
     
  11. jaygalaxy

    jaygalaxy New Member

    Nov 1, 2002
    Los Angeles
    Bear with me guys I haven't been on in a while. Who is ABMOD?
     
  12. roarksown1

    roarksown1 Member

    Mar 30, 2001
    Playa del Rey, CA
    Club:
    Hamburger SV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Ankle Biting Munchkin of Death - Richie Williams.
     
  13. jri

    jri Red Card

    Sep 28, 2000
    boca
    I see Chris didn't make SA's top 6 at any position...
     
  14. jaygalaxy

    jaygalaxy New Member

    Nov 1, 2002
    Los Angeles

    Thanks. I figured it would have to be Richie Williams but I wasn't sure how he translated into ABMOD.
     
  15. angstchild

    angstchild New Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Tracy, CA
    To be fair, SA did realease an addendum to their list.

    Best Arena teabaggin' benchwarmer who attended UVA
    1. Chris Albright
    2. Richie Williams
    .
    .
    .
     
  16. IsItSnowingInSpace

    Mar 20, 2000
    Orem UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Free Roy Lassiter!
     
  17. SgtSchultz

    SgtSchultz Member

    Jul 11, 2001
    Parts Unknown
    Bruce has his favorites. I get tired of him bringing retreads like Albright. Earlier this year, Bruce was asked if there were any young players he would bring to the national squad. He answered that he had given consideration to Quaranta. If you are one of Bruce's Boys, you will always be given a shot even though you have had a terrible season for your club team.
     
  18. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Alternate theory #2:

    He's calling in Albright precisely to focus our attention on Albright while he does other things. If we're too busy complaining about Albright (or ABMOD or Kirovski), then we won't have time to notice any of Bruce's other experiments, and will then presumably leave him in (relative) peace...
     
  19. Cavalier

    Cavalier Member

    Sep 9, 1999
    Where the hell do people get this cr*p about being one of Bruce's boys? While as a UVA alum and DC United supporter, I might be partial to the two players above, Arena did not coach Albright in either college or at DC United and likewise, has never coached Quaranta in any form. So why exactly would Arena feel some kind of special treatment was in order for them?

    Who does the US have for right back at the moment? Cherundolo and Hejduk. Cherundolo would seem the choice at the moment, but his size is of concern against most non-central american teams. And Hejduk who will be 30 when qualifying starts, still can't cross and looked like where the offense went to die for the Crew this year. Which means Arena needs to look at other players. Right now the two best choices are Klein and Albright. Klein and Albright are almost identical in size, have similar skills in that they have solid two ways skills but are not true international caliber midfielders, exactly 3 years apart in age and had somewhat similar years in MLS 6G4A for Klein, 3G4A for Albright. Right now if I were Bruce I would start trying Klein out in back, but it is not out of the question for Albright to be in camp and play this position in intersquad games with Klein on one team and he on the other.

    And as for Quaranta, based on the way he has looked at the U20's so far, the chances of Arena seriously calling him are about nil as he has been one of the, if not the worst players on the US squad so far.
     
  20. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bingo.

    How many people, when they saw Heydude's name on the WC roster said, "Well, at least he didn't take ABMOD!"
     
  21. jsantarita

    jsantarita Member

    Jun 13, 2000
    Albright:
    Can't score, can't drible, can't cross, can't head. Runs like hell but only in a straight line.
    Apart thse obivous shortcomings .... he is an excellent player
     
  22. Serie Zed

    Serie Zed Member

    Jul 14, 2000
    Arlington
    You're all fools if you didn't learn anything during the last qualifying cycle.

    Bruce will call in ANYONE he thinks might be able to make the National team better. It's as simple as that. He wants to win.

    There are no "favorites" there's no 5th grade head games with a bunch of Internet nuts, he's just trying to build a team that will win.
     
  23. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    I'm reminded of the "brilliant" way Arena handled the left back situation for 2002: Regis not up to snuff, and no alternatives in sight. Rather than testing more players for the position, Arena brought Regis, who ended up not playing at all in Korea.

    Meanwhile, for the better part of 18 months, Arena wasted his time watching Ritchie Williams in camp after camp. After having seen Williams at UVa and DC, didn't he already know Williams' abilities? And was there any real possibility of Williams playing in Korea?

    My query is this: Why does Arena insist on wasting his time on players that have no business playing at the international level? Why waste time on camps full of the likes of Albright, Perez, and other players who so clearly lack the ability to play at this level? Does anyone here actually think that the US has such a surplus of players that Arena can amuse himself with these jokers?

    Injuries/lack of form can happen at any time to any player. It's my opinion that the national team coach of the US should spend his time preparing for this eventuality. Albright, Perez, and many others Arena invited into the December camp lack the very basics of footballing ability, athleticism, and football sense to play internationally.

    Cheers!
     
  24. Craig P

    Craig P BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 26, 1999
    Eastern MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's funny, I remember him running out both Bocanegra and Vanney at that position. Unfortunately, both players got hurt.
     
  25. Fah Que

    Fah Que Member

    Sep 29, 2000
    LA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    It look forever for Bruce to get Pablo Mastroeni into the team, because he was obssessed with Richie Williams so much. If I recall correctly, Pablo never participated in qualification. He also never even considered Mulrooney until just before the world cup. Mulrooney should have gone instead of Regis. Mastroeni wouldn't have gotten a chance if Armas wasn't injuried, which was a blessing in disguise. US would have existed in first round if Chris Armas wasn't injuried.
     

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