But at worst the third most talented team in the world. And are they underperforming? They just finished third this World Cup and made the semis in 2018, went out in the quarterfinals to France in 2022, and made the final of the last two Euros. The main issue is they haven’t actually won one of these tournaments but in the last 8 years I’m guessing only Argentina and France have won more games at major tournaments.
You need a good mix in that you want foreign players who will raise the level of the league but also teams that give youth players good opportunities. There’s a balance to it.
Need a little more incentive for “homegrown” (unsure exactly how defined so may also need redefining) with respect to salary cap and remove homegrown territories entirely.
Indeed. Clubs have ALL the leverage in this case. Whether MLS or Europe or Mexico. None have to release players to youth camps. Not even the Olympics. They don't even need a reason. "We don't feel like it" is good enough. In this case MLS clubs have a good reason. If folks want to be filled with even more indignation, there's some evidence that a few players weren't released due to MLS Next Pro duties. Zach Campognolo of the Rapids, who was competing to be the starting keeper for this event, is likely one of them. It depends what time of the year these things are. When we switch to the calendar that aligns with Europe, then we'll likely be able to get more releases in summer tournaments like this one. This particular U20 tournament is a group phase with Cuba, Haiti, and El Salvador. The players we did call in will likely do fine. There's talent here, and also some interesting new faces.
It's worth noting that homegrowns already: Don't count against the cap. Have quite a few roster spots that basically can only be used for them. Create more cap space when sold because they aren't netted against a transfer fee or cost despite a pretty substantial investment in the academy. If we look at the things that could be done against the cap to make them even more attractive, there's some option: Playing requirements -- lots of countries have tried them. They generally don't work incredibly well, and there's probably a pretty big US Labor Law issue. The only place I'd push it is the US Open Cup. The other way, if you could get around legal, would be a minutes requirement for the year -- but not individual games. Make the above more beneficial; i.e., you get DOUBLE the allocation money when you sell a homegrown or something. But I'm not sure where that money comes from; the GAM from a sale comes from the transfer fee. I think MLS already plays quite a few kids, but the bigger blocks here are actually the normal veteran bias as well as the start up investment cost and lack of certainty of payout. Having pro academies is a market solution; these are real concerns that you can alleviate on multiple ends. Some ideas: Opportunity and movement on the labor side. MLS has already created the cash market, which has opened up a TON of movement. Ordaz just moved out of LA; Bombino, Vazquez to San Diego; Raines to NE. Allowing youth to move to teams that believe and then having them perform ... that's the biggest incentive. Creating more opportunities -- continuing and perhaps expanding on the 2-way contract situation -- maybe more of a glidepath to a full MLS contract. We need more ways for borderline players to keep getting minutes but be available for the senior team. Also, trying to get a better arrangement with USL teams -- until MLS really launches a real D2, you can't tell me there's not guys in the Quakes academy who couldn't make the Roots better. But they are competitors right now, and no one wants the rug pulled out from them in their league. Lastly, you can create more value for homegrowns by allowing the status to last longer or create a "second homegrown contract" where part of their cap hit disappears. This will reduce the inventive to sell, but if a homegrown player that stays forever, like a Jesus Ferreira, is always a 50% cap hit -- well then everyone should be developing. This will have unintended consequences, though, so maybe it's graduating.
The number of U21 Americans getting minutes in MLS is similar or better than the equivalents in the EPL, LA Liga, B1, Serie A, and Jupiler. Ligue 1 and the Eredivisie each have double the domestic youngsters, though.
Homegrown contracts don't count against the cap. But once a homegrown player gets on the second contract, that drops, IIRC. The supplemental roster isn't really any different than the senior roster, anyway, in terms of the players playing in games. It's just that there's a limited number of sources. But it's not like they can't play more than a player on the senior roster. It's not like an NFL practice squad, though you can treat it that way.
Jake Burgess writes up a great article in Backheeled using his own possession value model (which something like xthreat or G+ is at a high level) detailing his U22 MLS Best XI (minus a keeper). https://www.backheeled.com/mls-best-young-players-world-cup-transfer-window-european-clubs/ It's pay, so I will only post the names and a small portion of the write-up. But the write-ups are great, and as usual, if you follow MLS, USL or the USMNT and don't have a backheeled sub, you are missing out. LB Frankie Westfield "According to Opta, he attempts the most crosses (5.44 per 90) and completes the most crosses (1.41 per 90) of any player in MLS. Among outside backs, he has also created the fourth-most big chances this season, according to FotMob." CB Mbekezeli Mbokazi CB Lucas Herrington RB Édier Ocampo CM Adri Mehmeti "Adri Mehmeti has been one of, if not the best, central midfielders in MLS this season. His statistical output of one goal and one assist hardly tells the full story. Mehmeti’s impact extends far beyond traditional box-score numbers." CM Paxten Aaronson AM Niko Tsakiris "There is a legitimate argument that Niko Tsakiris has been the best chance creator in MLS this season. With San Jose sitting atop the Western Conference, Tsakiris leads the league by creating 3.37 chances per 90 minutes." RW Zavier Gozo "What separates Gozo from almost every other player in MLS, and perhaps even the broader USMNT player pool, is his ability to create opportunities off the dribble. According to Opta, only Lionel Messi has produced more carries that end with a shot this season." LW Mateo Silvetti ST Julian Hall "If Hall had a superpower, it would be invisibility. He constantly disappears from the defenders’ line of sight before drifting onto the blind side of center backs. By the time they realize where he’s gone, it’s often too late and the ball is already arriving at his feet near the six-yard box."
Benji has a loooooooooooong time to go before the Chelsea move at 18, so we'll be talking about him more here. An exciting prospect that seems to be rocketing skyward. Meteoric rise. The best prospect at Dallas since Pepi. He's incredibly athletic. His brother Aaron plays defensive back at the University of Oregon. [Hopefully 5 years from now Benji will be the answer to: What would happen if top athletes in the US played soccer.] Right now Dallas has both Flowers and Kimbrough training with North Texas. They're hopefully surging back to the forefront of the youth development radar. "He's a player that's unique and memorable. If you see him on the field, you'll remember him.” 📰 Get to know Benji Flowers, who today became the youngest player in FC Dallas history at 15 years, 3 months & 9 days old.https://t.co/tojHHkoYCZ— Garrett Melcer (@GarrettMelcer) July 23, 2026
Gameday for the US U20s. Pretty much a B squad as mentioned previously in the thread. Still.....................we got soccer to watch today! Mexico and Costa Rica took care of business in their openers yesterday. There was an online rumor that Ervin Torres of Austin has replaced Alex Shaw of Inter Miami in the midfield. I guess we'll know for sure when the game starts!!! The @Concacaf U-20 Championship is here. The battle for the continent begins tomorrow 🇺🇸 #U19MNT pic.twitter.com/z4D9Pc8zXO— U.S. Soccer YNT (@USYNT) July 24, 2026
He is pretty wrong. Well, he is just wrong. The problem is NOT that good American attacking prospects are not getting minutes. It IS that clubs are not developing a lot of great attacking prospects.
In the Dallas area the best attacking #10 types are all Mexican kids. But do they have long term potential as a pro if they aren't very athletic? Not sure what the answer to that is. We See limitations with Zendejas and Luna and they are the cream of the crop. Not a ton of Messi's undiscovered and even he had world class quickness and was also pretty fast.
Yeah Messi is short, but he didn’t really have any other athletic shortcomings when he was in his prime. He’s not super stocky, but he’s definitely sturdier than Pulisic. Very good to elite in terms of build, quickness, and speed.
20-and-under players to get starts in the attack Current MLS season domestics/total numbers MLS: 25/38 25/26 European season domestics/total numbers EPL: 12/36 La Liga: 11/35 Serie A: 9/33 B1: 14/50 Ligue 1: 31/77 Eredivisi: 25/46 Portugal: 10/42 Belgium: 14/46
example: 25 American players currently 20-and-under have gotten starts in the attack this season. 38 20-and-under players of any nationality have gotten starts in the attack this season.
THe US U20s won 3-0 last night over Haiti. The goals were from Santiago Morales of Inter Miami, Ruben Ramos of LAG, and Dino Klapija of RB Leipzig (formerly of NYCFC) 3 goals and 3 points in our first match of the U-20 @Concacaf Championship! pic.twitter.com/q0ey8rwxVt— U.S. Soccer YNT (@USYNT) July 26, 2026
I sometimes wonder if the people making comments about how MLS isn't playing young players.............................actually watch MLS. Or if they just enjoy complaining. Cuz you can't actually watch MLS and say that they're playing fewer young domestic players than other leagues. You can't. After yesterday's games, the 50th youngest player used in MLS this season was Finn Sundstrom. The defender with Philadelphia. When he first played he was 19 years old 3 months. So we're getting close to the 50th youngest player being less than 19. Is it hard for young players to break thru in certain positions? Of course. Its hard for young players to break thru everywhere. That's why its critical to have 2nd divisions, 3rd divisions, etc. Its why clubs loan players out for playing time. Yes. Its true that MLS clubs use their high-salary DP slots on center forwards, attacking midfielders, etc. High value positions that most impact goals. BUT WHO DO PEOPLE THINK ENGLISH AND GERMAN AND SPANISH CLUBS SPEND THE MOST MONEY ON? Do people think its easy for teenage center forwards and attacking midfielders in the Premier League? Playing time is not just given. Young players have to earn it. As the quality of MLS keeps improving so does the level a young player has to reach to be given a shot. If you're a young Dallas center forward, you need to be better than a guy that started at the World Cup for Croatia. Yes, you need to push yourself to THAT LEVEL. This is how we push young players to improve and improve and improve. If you're a young attacking player with LAFC you need to beat out players like Son and Bouanga for playing time. I don't really understand why this is even a topic. Yes, if you're a shortstop in the Kansas City Royals system, your playing time might just be blocked. You gotta be better than Bobby Witt Jr. or go somewhere else. This is how sports work.................................
There are so many, it seems, convoluted rules in MLS for how rosters can be built and paid that it's hard to determine whether teams are developing young talent and playing them "enough" or not. My opinion is the more rules and constraints there are the harder it is for teams to develop and play younger players. If teams see they can make money, or it makes financial sense to develop young players, they'll do it. Scouting and buying players when you are competing against the rest of the world is very expensive. Buying Argentine players definitely isn't "cheap".
MLS's numbers are certainly superior to those of the top European leagues--aside from Ligue 1 and Ere-- when it comes to giving the domestic youngsters starts.
MLS' rules encourage developing and playing young players. They also incentivize selling them, which is interesting. They are talking about loosening payroll and rules; depending on what they it could definitely decrease the incentive.
What I’d like to see is them eliminate the homegrown territories as I’m sure teams will take different approaches to young players and you want guys to have options to go to clubs where they’ll actually get legitimate opportunities versus higher spending clubs they may live close to where they won’t.
I think this is a good idea but don't think it would dramatically change things until kids are older. Doubt many families want to uproot and move because a 12 year old isn't getting enough time. By 16 I think it could happen and really players should be able to pick the best place for themselves. Having seen some already do this by choosing USL teams it doesn't always seem to be the best idea but they should be free to make both good and bad decisions.