Do you realize that 5 is a real number, while 1.1 is a pigment of imagination? Like a total nonsense? Everybody knows that 2+3 in 3 games is unsustainable and no one expects that rate to last. But for now it's 2+3, and 1.1 doesn't exist.
...and the discussion comes full circle. A new page in the forum, and an opportunity for the debate to start anew. The cycle of bigsoccer life.
And, hopefully, he keeps working on his game. My guess is that he has a Dempsey-like woodshed mentality. Dempsey just kept getting better and better until his body gave out. (Jozy, too, but imo, Jozy was encouraged to bulk up so much, it created limitations) My guess is that DD is a guy that is always going to be expanding his skillset.
My initial reaction was that he took a whack and kinda got lucky. But, wow, he really adjusted his body to strike the ball. He knew what he was doing. Insane is a good description.
Dude, it's just an average. People use, and misuse, averages all the time in real life but for the most part we don't throw away the concept of an average or a baseline. Smart people won't suddenly stop actually looking at the plays. Relax a bit. Math is a tool not the murder weapon of our global passtime.
By the way, talking about the eye test. I think Caden is the more intriguing prospect. The sheer audacity and range of his technique is mouthwatering.
Terrible color commentary. Not as bad as the guys DC has for announcers, but still bad. Thank goodness I only had to suffer through one “IT’S IN THE NET!” last game.
1389033836739182592 is not a valid tweet id Caden Clark has an agreed transfer to Leipzig mate— Manuel Veth (@ManuelVeth) May 3, 2021 Any guesses?
This is impossible to say. Szoboszlai was sold for 20 million euros from Peter to Paul (Salzburg-Leipzig) in the last transfer window. What is Paul supposed to Peter for Caden Clark? Not sure, but whatever it is it isn't determined by market forces. So the question is about Cowell. I really hesitate to venture a guess. What did Reynolds go for? $9-10 million? I guess if I were running Man U, I would pay more for Cowell. So I would say summer transfer window 2022 for more than Reynolds.
My guess: $2-3 million Clark + $12 million Cowell = $15 million https://www.transfermarkt.us/caden-...sh-further-financial-details/view/news/378731 According to a report by The Athletic published on Jan. 25, Leipzig will pay in the region of $2-3 million to secure Clark from the New York Red Bulls when the transfer is completed in 2022.
The Clark transfer number is just kind of pointless as it is in house. It certainly seems like Cowell could be over $10M -- but the sell on clauses complicate that as well.
Yes the RB discount makes it hard to compare the two... Transfermarkt has Clark at $3.3 million (23rd here, and Cowell outside the top 23 altogether), but that appears to be a result of the reported number. Top 23 U-21 Most Valuable Players in North America according to Transfermarkt: #USMNT #TeamUSA 🇺🇸 16🇲🇽 4 (Including Efrain Alvarez)🇨🇦 3 pic.twitter.com/0bAtP8k781— US Soccer's Bot (@USSoccersBot) May 3, 2021
If I'm MLS owners I'm looking into RB sales figures as it's not completely in house as all teams are league owned with an operator. Check into recent RBS to RBL transfers and make sure RBNY to RBL or RBS are similar.
If their stats are more in line with Almiron’s, then I’d say they should go for 17 million or more individually. If they produce more like Aaronson, I’d say they should go for 10-15 million. Clark’s price will be much lower than market value, though.
Yeah, its Red Bull moving figures around on a spreadsheet. They can send $50 million over to New York for infrastructure, academy, etc., any time they want. NYRB will maximize the amount of money they can use for allocation to improve the existing roster. After that its gravy. Caden Clark wouldn't be with NYRB in the first place if it weren't for the pathway to Leipzig. I suspect that the deal will be 2-3 million up front, but there will be a hefty sell-on transfer clause. Kinda like the Chris Richards deal to Bayern Munich. That was below market value too. The real money will roll in with the sell-on clause. We do have to keep in mind that the Clark fee, etc. was agreed upon before he'd done a lot. Just like Richards, who hadn't played a game in MLS yet. The same can be said of Joe Scally of NYCFC. This is just good, proactive scouting and recruiting of the North American market by the Red Bull organization. The recruited him away from Barca AZ, traded for his MLS rights from Minnesota, and then proactively put him on a path to Leipzig. If this works like they want it to, NYRB will be able to recruit additional youngsters to their academy this way.
As far as Cowell goes, who the hell knows? Reynolds' fee kept increasing and increasing due to competition for his signature amongst the biggest clubs in Europe. This isn't coming out of nowhere. Let's not forget that Berhalter has already called Cowell up to a USMNT camp. Sealy too. Anybody remember when there was a U20 camp happening the same time as USMNT camp? Berhalter was so impressed by Sealy that he moved him over to train with the full USMNT. As the son of a T&T international, he's one we need to be aggressive with if we want him.
Clark is already sold, and there is no reason for it to be more than $3 MM. So, if Cowell is sold, he might go for Aaronson at the top end. So, $10 MM combined? But has SJ ever sold anyone?
I mean, why? While a higher fee sets a precedent for the market, MLS owners already have Aaronson, Reynolds and others. It's not quite the same value as it would have been a few years ago. There's a small amount of money the league gets, but it is literally $50k for every $1M, or roughly $2k per team ... so even going for $10M more is only $20k per team. The other owners will certainly appreciate the desire to avoid taxes, etc., keep league revenues down for the player negotiations and respect ownership privacy as they will think they may need it someday. It's just not that important.
I don't think MLS has any direct stake in this in the current structure. MLS as a single entity already extorted $300-400K in GAM, maybe more, simply because Clark was born near Minnesota. If MLS is unhappy that Leipzig is getting a discount, do they then force Minnesota to return their ransom? RBS to RBL transfers are done to maximize FFP benefit on either side most likely. RBNY to RBS/RBL are done to minimize FFP hit and maximize MLS value. That comes in around $3 MM. If MLS wants them to pay more (they own his MLS rights already), they should increase the benefit of selling him.