Breaking Hag - The Erik ten Hag Thread

Timing and why he'd join us?

 

This is the part I find odd about the timing.

Unless I missed it, I don't remember his name really being linked at all in the summer, when we clearly were looking. If we did speak to him, we kept it awfully quiet.

Yet now he's suddenly come to the front of the line. So what change?

Either this rumours are total BS (possible)

Or, he's been near our number 1 choice to replace eth all along, we just weren't ready to make that change (hence just extending EtH).

 

I was reading somewhere that they still hope to land Southgate and he is their top target.

I guess I was hopeful that Ruud was brought in as the eventual replacement. I guess I still hope he gets that opportunity.

 

Like I said in Porto match thread, next game he is gone. I thought Nov seemed fair but it's still same echoes of last season. I have given up as well.

 

Except those players are mostly ETH players now e.g. Zirkzee, Amad, Garnacho, Antony, Hojlund, Mount. True about the likes of Rashford & Bruno etc. I just think ETH is tactically inept and what he is trying isn't working and there are no signs of improvement.

 

Perfect manager to continue the cycle of firing and hiring. Buying his players, selling the last managers players, then doing it all over again. Going to a totally different system in which we dont have the players for it.

 

What is our current system? Lol

 

Good for him though. These decisions should be delegated to upper management. That's what they do.

 

Its not a 3 back with good wingbacks.

We've tried to use a 3-2 or 3-1 build structure out the back, but not the same thing.

 

That's fair, especially the wing back point. We have neither the depth or quality to pull off such a system. And Lord knows what we'd do with the likes of Garnacho or Amad in that system.

Rashford could at least function as part of the front 2, but he'd likely not be happy with it. And he still wouldn't defend from the front..lol.

 

Honest question, what is the solution then with this squad?

It seems that there are still failures implementing the press etc that leaves huge amounts of space that our MF cannot cope with and exposes our defense. That would seem to suggest changing the tactics to fall back more and plug the space, but isn't that also what no ones wants to see and not what will get United to top 4.

I cannot figure out where to land here - changing from ETH would either imply that (1) the tactics are wrong for the squad, (2) the tactics are right but the squad is wrong or (3) the tactics are right but the squad isn't following them due to motivation etc.

 

I've been EtH in simply because I didn't think firing him and replacing with any of the available options was a better idea.

I'm starting to think that the rot in this club goes even deeper. How could so many managers get the sack in the exact same way? It feels like the rot goes even further than the players, like we've been cursed or something.

How is it that nobody has been able to find any kind of consistent success as a manager at this club since SAF?

How far does this reset have to go before it works? Obviously the Glazers are a massive part of it - did they make a deal with the Devil that they would buy the club and benefit financially from it but lose all success on the pitch for eternity?

I still don't think Southgate, Tuchel, or others are going to fare any better than EtH, and if that's the case, I don't see the point in sacking him. Sack him for the week or two bump in form for a new manager just to get back to where we are now in 6mos?

 

It's the same cycle, new manager comes in and buys his preferred players only to get sacked and leave the new signings at the mercy of the next manager. We are always clearing the old manager deadwood.Im so pissed right now.

 

This is the part that still has me wavering

 

Play ole ball. We have the speed and technical players to succeed with this. And there hasn’t been a team that bunkers against us in years.

 

Pressing is not just about working hard. Yes that is part of it but spacing, patterns and collective organization when pressing are all just as important. It seems to me that he hasn't figured out how to properly coach the players how to press. Look at the video you posted, the positioning of our wingers is all wrong. That's coaching.