Brazilian Clubs With Most Fans

Discussion in 'Brazil' started by Lex Bouvier, Oct 13, 2003.

  1. Lex Bouvier

    Lex Bouvier New Member

    Jul 15, 2003
    Minas Gerais
  2. MIGkiller

    MIGkiller Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    May 9, 2003
    Rio de Janeiro
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    It's amazing how Flamengo despite not having a real decent team for more than 10 years now, is still far away from the second most popular team.

    Yet more concerning is the fact that even though such popularity doesn't help Flamengo getting out of the financial chaos. Even with all the corruption surrounding our football, Flamengo should be an wealthy club.
     
  3. Lex Bouvier

    Lex Bouvier New Member

    Jul 15, 2003
    Minas Gerais
    And the same applies to Vasco, Corinthians or Palmeiras as well. I really don't know why major clubs in Brazil are unable (incapable?) to capitalize it's popularity into money.

    I mean, c'mon... having an universe of 24 million supporters, a club like Flamengo should be able to get a minimum income to pay it's debts in the proper time, to say the least...

    It remains a mystery for me. But It seems that a good management is the key to success, since clubs like Cruzeiro - or São Caetano specifically, which almost does not have supporters at all - are know for being wealthy, despite their not-that-huge fan base (comparing with the most popular ones).
     
  4. CerezoElegance

    CerezoElegance New Member

    Sep 26, 2003
    I am not sure any club in Brazil has that many fans. The attendaces are pathertic outside MG and BA
     
  5. Blue Fox

    Blue Fox New Member

    Aug 22, 2003
    I´m sorry...

    ...but if you analyse the data, Cruzeiro has around 6.000.000 of fan`s (5,3%). It´s the biggest number of fans outside Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo!!! It´s a fantastic number, mainly if you remember that the great midia is concentrated in this two Brazilian states...
     
  6. CerezoElegance

    CerezoElegance New Member

    Sep 26, 2003
    "attendaces are pathertic outside MG and BA"

    I said OUTSIDE MG!!
     
  7. tpmazembe

    tpmazembe Member

    Jun 13, 2002
    The Midfield (S.Fla)
    CElegance has part of the answer....what is a fan? Or more precisely, what is a marketable fan? When I lived in Rio many so called Botafogo fans where astounded at the lenghts I would go to see a game (from Leblon to the port, on to Niteroi via ferry, then to Caio Martins) ....even more so because I was a foreigner. I found many "fans" in name only - people whose family had always supported the team, but who had never ventured to actually see a game. Those kinds of fans do nothing for your revenue base.

    The second reason Lex is lack of marketing sense among some clubs. Case and point, I went to the Bota headquarters all excited, hoping to see a cool museum heralding the exploits of Didi, Zagallo, Garrincha, et al.....boy was I disappointed. I couldn't even buy the Ruy Castro book on Garrincha, or get the "Alegria do Povo" tape (have to buy bootlegs)! This is Bota's precious history and legend; but they don't use it in a manner that expands or even preserves their brand. Have any of you tried to purchase a Garrincha jersey? Doesn't exist.....think about the possibilities.
     
  8. CerezoElegance

    CerezoElegance New Member

    Sep 26, 2003
    The point I am making is that Mengo have 30 million fans or smething and we often here Timao is the secod most popular clubs etc. BUT, when it come to publicos, they are overshadowed by other clubs/regions.
     
  9. Alex_1

    Alex_1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 29, 2002
    Zürich
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    This is something that I have always been curious about and wondered how in the world it could have been overlooked. I bet the vintage jersey's would sell like crazy. Garrincha, Tostao, Pele, Zico, Socrates, Rivellino - I bet if you came out with the jersey's and heck, you can use the old style of shirt also, people would buy them. HOwever I think if something like this would happen, it would have to be some sort of split revenue thing between the CBF and the individual clubs. In otherwords, someone will get a lot of money and someone will get nothing. :D
     

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