Post-match: Brazil vs. Korea [2022 FIFA World Cup]

Discussion in 'Korea' started by Lionel Richie, Dec 3, 2022.

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Which result do you predict?

Poll closed Dec 5, 2022.
  1. Korea will win.

    12 vote(s)
    57.1%
  2. It'll be a tie.

    1 vote(s)
    4.8%
  3. Brazil will win.

    8 vote(s)
    38.1%
  1. Testator

    Testator Member+

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    I'm Croatian, but I would rather see option 3 than 2. Anything is better than 2.

    I know about the horrible history of Korean occupation by Japan, but 5-0 loss is undeserving. Koreans have teamwork, unlike selfish Brazilians.
     
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  2. gunitinug

    gunitinug Member

    Sep 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Hold to a draw then win by penalties.
     
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  3. The Hyphen

    The Hyphen Member+

    Jun 29, 2014
    The question was posed from a hindsight 20/20 perspective ....therefore it would be illogical to compare it with the Portugal win

    And for the record, A win over Brazil will always seem more flikey than a ein over Portugal Theyre teo different pedigree to me.
     
  4. Gayageum

    Gayageum Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 22, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Haniljeon in the QF would be bonkers.

    Remember when Kim Yuna competed with the Japanese skater for gold in Vancouver 2010? Both countries essentially came to a halt to watch them skate. When Kim Yuna eventually lifted gold, it was really a whirlwind of emotions from feeling jubilation, elation, and relief...

    The burden and expectation placed on Kim Yuna was insane. If the stars align and we get to face Japan in the QF, it's honestly going to be one of the tensest WC matches.
     
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  5. Gayageum

    Gayageum Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 22, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Yeah, I think it'll be a 2-0, 3-0, 3-1, 4-1, loss OR a 1-0 win OR penalty win.

    Brazil hasn't conceded more than one goal in their last 51/53 games. Twice when they conceded two goals, it was a 2-2 draw against Colombia and 4-2 win vs Peru. Of course this isn't the only way to look at it, but Brazil's defense is as solid as their offense. I just don't see us scoring multiple goals against them.
     
  6. nmssis

    nmssis Member+

    May 21, 2011
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    stuff the middle...do not give them space to run but force them to cross. the point is to frustrate them
     
  7. LeeSeungWoo

    LeeSeungWoo Member+

    Jun 3, 2016
    What do you expect for Croatia vs Japan?
     
  8. hodoriman

    hodoriman New Member

    May 16, 2010
    SF Bay Area
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I don't expect Korea to win this one, but stranger things have happened.

    What I find satisfying about Korea's WC so far is that you can make a reasonable case Korea outplayed all three of its opponents in the group stage, even if Portugal rested some key players. How many times has that happened? Maybe once, in 2002, on our home turf?

    Again, Korea likely goes home on Monday. But, for me, it's been a good WC regardless. And Bento has been a good, not great manager. While I can't complain about any of his tactics, my primary complaint is that he took way too long to figure this Korea team out. Anybody who follows Korean soccer knows LKI needed to be integrated, but Bento neglected him for almost an entire year and only just figured out how to utilize him in the WC. So yes, Bento has been good, and, this has been a good WC, but Korea has real talent and a competent manager would have figured it out earlier.

    Finally, I pray Korea and Japan play each other in the final 8, even if Korea loses. It would focus the entire world on Asian football and highlight how much quality exists on both teams. The only real drawback would be if we were blown away by Japan, but that ain't happening. A close game would only increase the value of the rivalry.
     
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  9. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
  10. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I'm usually terrible at predictions but my gut feeling tells me we'll get another late drama win like we did vs Portugal, either 1-0 or 2-1.

    In all honesty though, regardless of the outcome I just want our team to fight tooth and nail like they did in all three group matches.
     
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  11. Goal!!

    Goal!! Member

    Nov 15, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I'm also betting Neymar will miss this game too!
     
  12. Kor_Ita_21

    Kor_Ita_21 Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    LOL.
    Step back and try to think objectively about what you said.


     
  13. Fector

    Fector BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jeonbuk FC
    Timor-Leste
    Jun 6, 2017
    Wow man, maybe you are not the guy I thought you were.
    I prefer Croatia to win over Japan. If Japan beat Croatia, I will not root for Korea vs Brazil as much because Brazil have a better chance of beating Japan. The possibility of Japan beating Korea and reaching the semifinal ... that is the end of the world for most Koreans.
     
  14. Goal!!

    Goal!! Member

    Nov 15, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic

    Just curious and forgive my ignorance. What national sport rivalries does Croatia have? Serbia ? Russia?
     
  15. Fector

    Fector BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jeonbuk FC
    Timor-Leste
    Jun 6, 2017
    Do you always double-quote when you feel immense love of Japan?
     
  16. LeeSeungWoo

    LeeSeungWoo Member+

    Jun 3, 2016
    Jesus was the one who destroyed us during the friendly even though he got subbed in. Our defenders literally didnt know how to stop him. So I am VERY happy he won't be playing against us.
     
  17. Testator

    Testator Member+

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    Serbia. Maybe a slight one with Italy, but we always beat them in football. Since we are a footballing power, we've had many clashes with Spain. But the country with whom we have the worst historical relations is Serbia.

    Serbia's role in our history is roughly comparable to Japan's role in Korea's history, with one major difference: they've used the fact that Croatian and Serbian languages are similar to influence naive Croats into thinking Serbs are their brothers. Artificially, the two languages were made even closer, and now, many people in Serbia and even Croatia think Croatian language is the same as Serbian, ignoring historical trends and vocabulary differences. And from there, Serbs will claim Croats don't exist as a people.

    Let's just say I'd gladly have the land mass of Croatia ripped out of Europe and moved next to Korea.
     
  18. The Hyphen

    The Hyphen Member+

    Jun 29, 2014
    yeah youre actually right come
    to think about it LOL who cares about flukes
     
  19. The Hyphen

    The Hyphen Member+

    Jun 29, 2014
    didnt serbia actually attempt genocide during Bosnia? friggen lunatics
     
  20. Bom23

    Bom23 Member

    Jun 19, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I feel like we don’t have good penalty takers …

    My confidence in Pk takers ranked based on gut feeling:
    1) LKI
    2) KYG
    3) SHM
    4) HIB
    5) CGS
    6) HHC
    7) Big JWY
    8) HUJ

    IMO Ki SY and Koo JC would automatically be our most reliable PK takers… Didn’t Son choke a few times and ask to be moved off penalty duty?
     
  21. Testator

    Testator Member+

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    #46 Testator, Dec 4, 2022
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2022
    Yes. They had plans of doing that in Croatia too.

    I don't know how loud Japanese ultranationalists are, or are they openly itching to recreate the brutal conditions under the military dictatorship that ruled Korea and other places with an iron fist, but Serbian nationalists are as bitter as quinine, claiming "the West conspired against Serbs". They gladly would do a round 2 with us if they had the money to fund an army. They have an ego the size of Ronaldo/Neymar, but applied to the whole nation, with murderous tendencies.
     
  22. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Yes. Ratko Mladic and Arkan, two of Serbia's notorious war criminals known for committing numerous war crimes and genocide particularly aimed at muslim Bosnians. Arkan in particular would raise tigers and feed the people to it including children. At least Arkan is dead (Assassinated), but that POS Ratko is alive rotting in prison.
     
  23. Testator

    Testator Member+

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    My tip for SHM would be: shoot down the middle- most goalkeepers won't expect it. Practicing penalties isn't even complicated, unlike tactical training. Modern data analysis is of great help, as goalkeepers will be provided with data on how players take penalties.
     
  24. Fector

    Fector BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jeonbuk FC
    Timor-Leste
    Jun 6, 2017
    #49 Fector, Dec 4, 2022
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2022
    Fun fact: The father of the Japanese skater was Korean so by Korean tradition Asada Mao is Korean as well.

    Koreans fantasize about moving away from Chinese and Japanese.
    I know you hate to hear this but most linguists consider the difference between Serbian and Croatian to be dialectical.
    In Korea Cholla and Kyongsang have intense hatred of each other. The latter actually prefer Japanese over the former. But they keep it secret because if other Koreans find it out they will be furious. The rivalry is mostly civil; I never heard of physical violence except among school children and teenagers.

    During the Bosnian war American media quipped, "Serbians are KKK with tanks".
     
  25. Testator

    Testator Member+

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    In the 18th and 19th century, the difference between Croatian and Serbian was far greater than today. My first teacher of Korean took interest in Croatia because she thought the relationship between Croatia and Serbia was similar to that of South and North Korea. She learned otherwise, but kept her love of my country.

    Regarding Korean fantasies: well, Croatia has a lot of empty space. Unused farmland, variable climate...it's just that we Croats are...a bit chaotic, although not violent by nature. I wish some 100.000 Koreans could move in and teach us how to be better people. I truly do.
     

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