Brazil-Italy

Discussion in 'Brazil' started by Denilson70, Jul 3, 2005.

  1. Denilson70

    Denilson70 Member

    May 29, 2001
    England
  2. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Your link is to an image, not the article.

    When is this supposed to happen? It'd be a great game for us this year but I think we don't have many dates available.
     
  3. Denilson70

    Denilson70 Member

    May 29, 2001
    England
    November. Brazil have denied they have agreed to play in Dubai v EUA on this date.
     
  4. MIGkiller

    MIGkiller Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    May 9, 2003
    Rio de Janeiro
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  5. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Ah, I was wondering about that game!
     
  6. neovox

    neovox Member

    Aug 21, 2003
    Sul do Brasil
    There is an article (Brasil contra a Itália, o sonho de Marcello Lippi) in O Estado de São Paulo this Sunday. Written by Antero Greco in Rome, it tells us about Lippi's view on Italy and his desire to put his team on the field against what he calls a 'great' Brazil. However, the tone of the article seems to subtly imply that Lippi wants to test his team. I find it curious, to say the least, because since 1995 CBF has tried to arrange a friendly (in Brazil or Europe) and Italy said always a rotund 'no'. 1989 was the last year to see a friendly between both. Brazil won (1x0).
     
  7. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Hopefully Lippi can convince the Federation that it is a good idea for his team.

    It's astonishing that 1989 is our last friendly (of course there was the 1997 game but that was a mini-tournament). In fact, if it weren't neovox stating it I'd say "unbelievable".
     
  8. neovox

    neovox Member

    Aug 21, 2003
    Sul do Brasil
    What gets me really disappointed is the fact that Brazil is sometimes seen (by some espertinhos) as nothing better than a benchmark for world class football excellence. It's certainly not a compliment.

    So if a given team beat us they are consequently better than us and deserve all the hype they can get - just before the World Cup in Italy's case. That is the way the media works. That's what Lippi wants. I don't have a single doubt in my mind about it. Clever man, this Italian.

    Brazil played Italy 13 times in official games with three ties and five wins each. It's pretty even and Italians obviously were never inclined to risk that status. They already have two losses in World Cup finals.

    I bet they want to play in Italy. ;)

    p.s.

    CBF wanted a friendly in Brazil. :) By the way, we are trying France since 1999 but they don't want to play us in Brazil.
     
  9. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Hope you don't mind my posting here!

    You all are right about Lippi's motivations . . . after all,
    he's just put together this new-look XI and I think he
    wants a better test than we've been getting in WQC
    (our group is 'soft': a group of life, let's say).

    But one thing I should mention--the friendly being in
    in Italy was supposed to be an arrangement for the
    benefit of many of Brazil's players--Kaka, Dida, Cafu,xxggh
    (that's my nephew; his first post) . . . Anyway that is
    what's stated in this article below:

    http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jul3k.html

    As for our all-time head-to-head: it is eerily even. Twice
    we've eliminated you at the WC, twice you've eliminated
    us, we drew at the Tournoi du France, our friendlies have
    been even . . . This may change the equation, but more
    importantly I think it will be a good test of Brazil's attacking
    flair against a team with a quality back-line (Nesta/ Cannavaro/
    Buffon) and good counter-attacking ability.

    If it happens, good luck! I've always thought it's a classic
    of world soccer.
     
  10. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    To be fair, there are many South American players based in Europe whereas there are no Italians in South America. Its far more convenient to play a friendly in Europe.
    While I understand that its not entirely fair that you won't subject other teams to a nice night in Belo Horizonte, it makes practical sense.
     
  11. Andre_Fla81

    Andre_Fla81 New Member

    Feb 28, 2004
    Brasil
    Can't believe that CBF will choose to play agaisnt the USA instead of Italy...tsc, tsc, tsc...
     
  12. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The poster meant to say UAE (United Arab Emirates), not EUA (Estados Unidos).

    The UAE of course can pay whatever we would ask.
     
  13. Jawz10

    Jawz10 Moderator

    Feb 27, 1999
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Would make for an interesting contest. Italy, Brazil and Germany are the royalty of international soccer, IMO. Since 94 the Brazilians have returned to their previous levels. Thats not to say from 70 to 94 they were not good, quite the contrary.
     
  14. Forza_Italia

    Forza_Italia New Member

    Jun 12, 2005
    mississauga
    the article from channel 4 already posted says that the game will be played in the penninsula but that could mean anywhere from spain to mexico to southeast asia for all i know
     
  15. neovox

    neovox Member

    Aug 21, 2003
    Sul do Brasil
    First of all, hello to your nephew. As a father I say that the best interests of the children takes precedence over all other matters! :)

    If they play it will certainly be a very interesting game, two opposite schools trying to impose their skills one over the other.

    p.s.

    When I was a kid playing against Italy was far more important than versus Argentina. With the passing of time it changed, of course. Anyway, it's my first childhood classic.
     
  16. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Well, as fifa.com says, Brazil's friendly vs. UAE is official. It's on for November 12th. So, I guess the Italy-Brazil match will have to wait until February or something. I always wanted to see an Italy-Brazil friendly in recent years, because I want to see what some of the Italian players would do against such a high quality team. For instance, I would love to see how Totti would play against Brazil. He is the closest player Italy has to a Brazilian flair/Ronaldinho/creative-type player. I just hopes he doesn't spit on anyone... ;)
     
  17. Denilson70

    Denilson70 Member

    May 29, 2001
    England
    Talented but nasty is Totti.
     
  18. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Well, when he controls his temper, he's one of the best players in the world. Hopefully he learns to control it for Italy's sake.
     
  19. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Actually I think Cassano is the most 'Brazilian' of Italians.
    He's a flamboyant dribbler, and also something of a malandro
    as they say in Brazil . . . Our own Garrincha, if you like.
     
  20. Jawz10

    Jawz10 Moderator

    Feb 27, 1999
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    AC Milan
    he sure made Roque Junior look bad on one particular play. I wish I had a clip.
     
  21. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yes, Cassano is probably the best Italian dribbler. On his day he makes world-class defenders look like fools. But Totti is more of a creative/Ronaldinho type player.
     

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