Bradley and a un tapped market! (R)

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by EL MONO MARIO, May 25, 2003.

  1. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Young un established players from Brasil Argentina and Uruguay would set this league on fire! Jose Galvan a Bosta JRS. Player wanting the chance to get noticed played a great game for the Metro"stars" yesterday and once him and Guevarra get in sync it might just be over! The kid (Galvan) showed a lot of heart and effort despite the empty stadium the game was played in yester.. It's hard to give up Bs As, for NJ, but he gave a good effort.

    Bob Bradley may have opened a new market for MLS, getting players from big clubs who don't get the chance to sit on the bench, but play in reserve matches.. The big clubs will loan to get them exposure, and they will play very well to prove a point! I should start! More MLS should do this! Well done Bradley, maybe Bob may have done The Metro's MLS a world of good now when looking at foregin players!

    102 anos de River Plate Pasion Monumental
     
  2. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    EVen though i follow the Metro and think Galvan did fine, i believe we should keep getting more Central American players than those from Brazil , Argentina, or Uruguay .Why? Because the best of these countries get taken by European clubs and those of mid level talent are mostly taken by Mexico...On the other hand, those from Central America are often overlooked (if not seen with disdain by many nations abroad) and can provide with their best prospects as has been the case with Cienfuegos, Ruiz, etc.. I certainly would not question Bradley's eye for talent, and i agree we need a few more quality foreigners in the league to keep teaching the youngsters, but i would not rely so much in Argentinians and Brazilians, although a couple more of them would help the league (as long as they are quality players)
     
  3. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Central America should be the place where MLS BUYS PLAYERS! But getting good un established, or overlooked players from South America on loan is more than a just a good idea..
     
  4. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    I think I have to agree with El Mono--Central Americans we can "discover", buy, then resell to Europe or Mexico for profit. But the Galvan types can help improve the league.

    The reason MLS has been so shy to get into S. Americans is all those lame ass 30+ year old Brazilians that were brought in in the first few years of the league. I would say a current example is Dario Fabbro--please, the guy doesn't even deserve to be called an Argentine.

    What MLS needs are young, hungry players from Arg and Bra who for whatever reason cannot get a spot with the squad at home. Some of these reasons may even be personal/political--"extrafutbolistico", as they say.

    Everybody wins--MLS can get young, highly motivated talent usually outside of its price range for cheap, the S. American clubs get these guys serious playing time and experience, the players get a decent stage on which to perform--certainly a hell of a lot better than reserve matches.

    I've always said about MLS that there's no shame in not being the best league in the world, only in being too rigid and blind to bring in the best players you can. Sprinkling in young reserves from some of the great clubs of S. America and Europe would seriously raise the quality of the league. That would benefit everyone--young American players included.
     
  5. Crazy_Quakes_Fan

    Crazy_Quakes_Fan New Member

    Jul 23, 2002
    San Mateo, CA
    Come expansion I really think that MLS should add one more senior international slot for each team, just to open up the talent pool a little more. You bring a great point. The more talent that comes to MLS, the better the league will be and the more money it will pick up on loan.

    English clubs are finally getting around to looking at American players and MLS. Players like Galvan who are trying to break into the first team on their squad will see this development and try to get to Europe using MLS as a sprinboard. It's certainly not a fantastic proposition, but it will improve quality of play and help the league grow.
     
  6. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If it's about loaning players, you have a point...I wonder why LA or Dallas have not tried doing something like that, given their poor showings this season
     
  7. KLECKO73

    KLECKO73 New Member

    Jan 5, 2002
    GARDEN STATE
    Bradley has done a smart job with the Metro's. He took the team to Arg. for a lot cheaper cost than if they trained in Florida. They got to scrimmage actual teams like CABJ and not some nothing college in Florida. They got 2 new players and who knows, maybe they have their eye on other players in the future. They come back and are playing above expectations.
     
  8. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    What the hell does that mean?
     
  9. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Supposedly, MLS doesn't receive players on loan. I don't know how the Metros are pulling this one off.

    And before anyone says it, I'm not accusing the Metros of receiving any special treatment. Lord knows this season, they don't need it. :(

    Sachin
     
  10. JoBeck

    JoBeck New Member

    Jul 24, 2000
    Wesschessduh
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ...Landon?
     
  11. Hattrix

    Hattrix Member

    Sep 1, 2002
    Chicago
    Re: Re: Bradley and a un tapped market! (R)

    Apparently moving from Buenos Aires to New Jersey is difficult for a young soccer player to do.
     
  12. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    I did say "supposedly". After all, MLS went through all sorts of semantic hoops to clarify that LaDo wasn't a loan deal, but some sort of co-sharing agreement. We all know that's bogus, of course, but I can't imagine MLS going through all the effort for a couple of Argentines that just about everyone on this board had never heard of.

    Look, I'm not castigating the Metros for this move. Obviously, they saw an opening and took advantage of it. I just want to see what opening that was.

    Sachin
     
  13. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Landon I think is the 1st "Loaned" player to MLS. I think MLS will look to do this rather than buy guys who are no good.
     
  14. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the MLS bias against taking on loaned players is pretty misguided. I guess they wanted to prevent american talent from signing overseas, just to be loaned back. Anyway loans are apart of the business of soccer and they make sense.

    I'd much a rather watch a team of loaned players with big league talent, than a team of owned players with A-league talent, most people would.
     
  15. RushOnze

    RushOnze New Member

    May 16, 2001
    Colorado
    hard to believe a River fan is supporting anything to do with Boca...
     
  16. Haig

    Haig Member+

    May 14, 2000
    METROSTARS
    Club:
    --other--
    It's good to see that Mario has tacitly admitted he was totally wrong when he slagged off the Metros as a crap team.
     
  17. johnh00

    johnh00 Member

    Apr 25, 2001
    CT, USA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There was a press release a few weeks ago announcing that MLS had decided they would start taking players on loan. Something like 2 days later the loan deals with Boca Juniors were announced.

    Lee
     
  18. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Somebody gave me a shot over this as well. It's about Argentina, my man.

    When the boys of Argentina came up this way to thump Honduras, Mexico and the USA earlier this year, I didn't care who they played for in Argentina. They were representing their country and their league as a whole. Especially after being disparaged by some of you as a "B" squad because they were only kids from the Argentine league. It was great to see all of them on the same side. Together, they were able to show the quality of the league.

    Same thing with the MetroStars situation. I loved being able to see, in person, Jose Galvan hold his own in his first game here. And I hope to see Juan Marcos Forchetti in today's game against Columbus (albeit on TV). Are these the best Argentina has to offer? Of course not. But it's a big step in the right direction and I commend Bob Bradley for taking it.

    One of these days there will be River Plate boys playing here. And kids from all over the league! You'll need it, in order to help keep the quality of MLS up with the inevitable expansion which will be coming in the future, and as the best American players opt to go abroad.

    (By the way, in case you didn't know, Silvio Dulcich, a 22-year-old goalkeeper from Boca, played in a Metro scrimmage this week. Could he find a roster spot with Tim Howard leaving for Man U?)
     
  19. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    "Players like Galvan who are trying to break into the first team on their squad will see this development and try to get to Europe using MLS as a sprinboard. "

    i dont think they are in mls because they want to get to europe. They are in mls because they couldnt get any time with their former senior teams and want to play. Europeans dont look to mls when they want south americans.
     
  20. goosegg

    goosegg New Member

    Jul 31, 2002
    NYC
    Colombia

    What about Colombia? They have 2 teams in the semis of Libertadores. They have very talented young players. They would probably come cheaper than the Boca stars, although I understand that Bradley is setting up a relationship for the long term, which is great.
     

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