I think booing is the right thing to do when the Revs put up such a stinker. The players need to know that the people who pay their salary's (the fans) expect them to put forth some effort each and every game. Playing only once a week, you would expect a bit more hustle. I suggest that everyone boos a bit louder if the Revs play with such little passion again.
If this team played like that in Europe, they'd soon be looking for a job (or at least be getting bench splinters).
And if the players were all made of cheese they'd have to live in fear of mice and Frenchman. Thankyou for that insight.
"And if the players were all made of cheese they'd have to live in fear of mice and Frenchman..." ... or media in the Gillette Stadium press box ;-) The Magpie
Er, well actually not. Since this franchise doesn't actually make money yet, Bob Kraft pays the players' salaries. Here are some reasons why it's dumb to boo so early in the season. 1. Because it's so damn early in the season. Even Red Sox and Patriots don't boo this early in the season. 2. The team has only lost two games - and these were to the best teams in the league. 3. Only four teams in MLS finished with better than a .500 record last year (the Revs were not even close). Should fans of the other 50% of the teams in the league have booed their teams continuously? Do you boo every loss or just the "bad" losses. 4. The game this weekend was pretty much a "first goal wins" affair. The Revs played relatively well until giving up a fluke own goal. Then they were made to look foolish by a very good team. 5. Booing disheartens the team (it does not fill them with righteous humility), sends a bad message to first-time visitors to soccer games, and makes the local fans seem like a bunch of lightweights. 6. Because it's still very-very early in the season
rodan....i have to disagree strongly. i don't think anyone is booing or expressing their displeasure over the "loss". its over the style of play we've seen here at home. its over the lack of cohesiveness between players on the field. i don't want to say its over the lack of heart, because i think that's there for many of the players. even if its very early in the year...much of what we're seeing from the revs (a team that experience little off season change, btw) has been dealt with rather quickly and easily by a team like the 'quakes that has been turned almost upside-down personnel-wise. don't you find this inexcusable? i do. they played pretty well down in dallas and didn't bring that game back with them to foxboro. well played, hard fought losses don't bother me.....however, these "type" of losses do. remember, nicol kept "apologizing" this past week in the press for their play on 4/19....saying the fans deserved better. i don't think, even he, would say that effort on saturday was better.
Here's the thing. If the fans cheered and raged with anything like the vehemence they display when they boo, I'd say "what the hell" However, a typical Foxboro crowd sits on it's hands for 90 minutes, occasionally sending Biff, Cindy, and Chip off for some fried dough and cotton candy, waits silently for someone to score, and if the scoreline doesn't flatter at the end, resorts to booing. Very sophisticated. I heard nada except from The Fort last Saturday. Nothing for 90 minutes. Until the final whistle that is, and then I heard boos. Kind of pathetic I think.
I don't really have an opinion on this one, but for the record the Sox fans are already booing pretty regularly. I was at the game Sunday, and there was plenty of booing. Ask Jeremy Giambi, he's already felt the wrath of the Fenway faithful. In fact, when they announced in the eighth that he was being pinch hit for, the crowd cheered. Ouch!
In my mind, when fans pay for a ticket, the least they have the right to expect from their team is effort. In my opinion, the effort was there against Columbus, and it wasn't there against San Jose. Had I paid for a ticket to Saturday's game, I absolutely would have booed at the final whistle, if not well before it.
That was the worst pice of crap game I have EVER watched on TV from MLS teams. I am pretty patient about our league and watch every time I can, but if this is the type of soccer we are going to be subjected to from the Revs this year , I will have to tune them out. Hell , I was booing them from my living room. And to think my Yard didn't get mowed because of that crpper of a game. OTOH , San Jose is looking preyy good. I just can't see why every team seems to play so damn defensivley or cautiously . It makes for very bad soccer.
That's the kind of crowd reaction I don't mind. If people booed a player or the coach or showed some general involvement during the game, hey more power to ya. Where were the general-purpose taunts of Goose? How about some ribbing for "butter-hands" Onstad? Why not boo Cullen or Heaps for their scattershot distribution? But a crowd that sits passively in some kind of semi-bovine torpor for 90 minutes and then resorts to discontented lowing when the home team comes up short...c'mon
I thought San Jose played as attractively as possible - given the circumstances. I really hesitate to call the Revs complete and utter crap because they've looked pretty good on the road - especially the Dallas match w/ Ralston and Moore linking w/ Twellman nicely. My suggestion: Wear the road unis at home.
That performance was well deserving of boos. In fact, that was the least entertaining sporting event I have ever witnessed. I've seen more excitement at my daughter’s U-10 matches. And where were all those fans that would come to see JMM and LD play? What a pathetic showing on a beautiful day by both fans and the Revs. Things better change on both fronts if we expect a home team in 2003.
If we were fans in Europe, we would have our passes revoked and be named the most stiff crowd never heard from.
That was a verrrrry flat crowd last Saturday. Not only was attendence low but the whole energy in the stands was far more sedate than usual. The first 30 minutes of the match seemed to get a few people on their feet but then the Revs seemed to go flat and the fans followed right along behind them.--------It was not a fun afternoon of soccer ! It made me wonder why I drove 800 miles to sleep in the sun and pay $3.50 for a bottle of water. George
Which leads to my point that if you're a fan who's paying good money to see a team play and they stink the joint out, you have every right to let 'em have it. When you're watching professional sports, the players are getting paid and with the prices getting charged nowadays (even for the revs) they damn well better perform. I don't think the Revs performed on Saturday. I think more than a couple of players weren't giving it their all. The boos were richly deserved.
If the team falls asleep during the game, I guess it's not hard to lose the short-attention-span portions of the crowd. Maybe folks were watching and waiting for something good to happen from their home team, and when the final whistle blew, they relalized "Hey, I just sat through 90 minutes of crap! Booo!". Of course, if they were watching the game, they'd realize that they only sat through 70-75 minutes of crap. To be fair, I DID hear the crowd cheer the efforts of Rusty as he disrupted attacks from Baby Jesus (or 'The Godess', as my wife calls him), and they did applaud some of the good Rev efforts. I think that the tough Rev crowd needs to be inspired to cheer... and I think that's an honest way to support the team. If a fan is inspired, he or she will cheer/shout/taunt/applaud. To jump on the 'booing' bandwagon ("hey, the crowd is booing, I guess I'll join in") without actually _feeling_ the need to boo is indeed in poor taste. But if a fan _feels_ the need to boo, then boo they should. Kevin D.
There was one group of fans that cheered the entire match. We should all satnd and cheer for those who paid big $ to sit in the Netside Terrace on such a fine day. What a joke! Not a single warm body in that marketing depatment brain storm! Maybe our Revs marketers can play midfield, because their marketing ideas are as bad as the product on the field Saturday.
Uh, weren't some members of the Sox bullpen booed on the day of the home opener, before the opening pitch had even been thrown? I went to the Celts opening game last season, and my friend an I were just talking about how we heard booing in that game, although I can't remember if it was in the 1st half or not. So to me, they're just getting the same treatment as our other pro teams. Is that not a good thing? I would say that you boo when the team doesn't play well. If a team plays an exciting game but loses, then I wouldn't boo. The Revs hardly played an exciting game. If "played relatively well" means that the Revs didn't allow a goal until the first goal was scored, I guess I would have to agree. But I can't agree to saying that the Revs played at all well in general. This notion that we shouldn't boo a team that doesn't perform well seems odd to me. Are we supposed to feel bad for the players after watching not play as well as we've seen them play previously? And this idea that because the fans didn't show any emotions earlier in a game that was boring and totally frustrating to watch IMO, then they have no right to show any emotion late in the game is completely mystifying. 'If you don't show enough emotion early, then keep your mouths shut, you have no right to express your opinion!'
Part of it's the people and a large part is that lousy stadium. It's like a morgue in there. Went to a game last year and at one point yelled out something only to have people in ahead of me look at me like I was crazy. The tailgates parties were dead and the atmosphere that made the whole experience fun, is gone. I'll probally give it another try when it warms up and if the Revs ever get their act together but if the next trip is like my last trip, there won't be anymore. I think a big part of the problem started with the increased ticket prices driving away the very people that created the atmosphere that used to make it fun to go to a Revs game.
I really don't understand why people think it's a matter of "effort". Point 1: Does the team that works harder win most of the time or play more entertaining soccer? I don't think so. Point 2: I saw no lack of effort. I saw a lack of skill, a lack of creativity and a lack of adaptability. Franchino - effort. Pierce - effort. Heaps - effort, although he fell asleep on goal #2. Llamosa - problems weren't due to effort, although maybe tried TOO hard on goal #1 Cullen - ran like a dog Joseph - worked hard at both ends Ralston - good effort, minimal results Kamler/Noonan - both worked hard Moore/Twellman - effort not an issue Brown - judgement error on goal #1, not for lack of effort. So who was dogging it?
Re: Re: Booing I don't know if it was a lack of effort so to speak ... it just seemed like the team didn't really come out to play in the second half. I hate to question heart, but it didn't seem like everyone was into the game. You can show 'effort' by running around like a chicken with it's head cut off, but accomplish nothing. That's what it seemed like at times. I was disgusted by what I saw in the second half of the match, and the only saving grace for me was that I couldn't make the match. But then again trying to explain to my girlfriend's father why exactly it was I watched this team/sport, when my team wasn't exactly giving me a great example, wasn't much fun.