Bolivian Players in MLS

Discussion in 'CONMEBOL' started by 1MADDOG, Jul 25, 2002.

  1. 1MADDOG

    1MADDOG New Member

    Aug 15, 2000
    DC
    Currently there are 3 active Bolivian players in MLS, DIABLO, MORENO, and Vaca.

    Diablo is for ever out from the national team, simple. The man is simply damaged goods. However I still believe Moreno and Vaca have alot to prove. Neither player has had any affiliation with the national team for the past 2 years (vaca almost 2 years).

    I don't understand why the national team forgets about potential talent in MLS.

    Thoughts????
     
  2. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    how old is moreno?
     
  3. dale_wilster

    dale_wilster Member

    Jul 4, 2001
    Cochabamba, Bolivia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    moreno is 28.

    vaca played some in the qualifiers, but i think he was left off the team once they were eliminated. i dont think (hope not) he is out of the picture for the qualifiers for germany 06.
     
  4. jd2084

    jd2084 New Member

    Aug 1, 2001
    Rhode Island
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hopefully Vaca is not out of the international picture. He's a very gifted young player (19 or 20?) and it would be a shame for Bolivia to give up on that type of talent so early. With the ever changing landscape of teams that qualify from SA Bolivia could easily make one of the next 2 WC's.

    1990 - Brazil, Argentina, Columbia, Uruguay
    1994 - Brazil, Argentina, Columbia, Bolivia
    1998 - Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Paraguay, Columbia
    2002 - Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Ecuador, Uruguay

    The only teams that haven't qualified in a while are Venezuela & Peru. It's not impossible to see them making a run at a cup while Vaca is still young enough to play.
     
  5. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    vacca will be with the nats soon

    I wonder if they have call up for the friendly vs. Venezuela next month in caracas?
     
  6. MetroChile

    MetroChile Member+

    Jan 13, 2001
    NJ; Valpo.
    Club:
    Santiago Wanderers
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    what about fernando ortiz-solis and the other guy who played for the under 20s before? He was at Columbus two years ago, they don't ever get too much recognition.
     
  7. type_32

    type_32 New Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    Who are Bolivia's top forwards? Who do they play for?
     
  8. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    venezuela have never qualified
     
  9. NACIONAL

    NACIONAL New Member

    Dec 31, 2001
    Medellin, Colombia
    vaca is good... but has a lot to improve... the other two can rest in hell for me....
     
  10. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Joselito Vaca will mature. Unfortunatly I've haven't seen him play here in DC because he was hurt last year during the first part of the season and the second game was cancelled due to 9/11. I hope he goes back to Oriente after the MLS season to contunue to grow. He has the potential to be a very good player for us. Jaime's injuries make him doubtful for 2006. But when healthy he can be very dangerous. Carlos Trucco needs to call both of these players and at least look at them.
     
  11. Smooth Operator

    Smooth Operator New Member

    Nov 8, 2001
    JOSE CASTILLO

    We all know that the best Boliviano is now in the MFL :cool:

    ex presidente de Oriente Petrolero destaca el pase de José Castillo al fútbol mexicano.

    "Ese chico es un fenómeno"

    La transferencia del delantero José Alfredo Castillo al fútbol mexicano es "la" noticia deportiva de Bolivia. El nuevo jugador de los Tecos de Guadalajara, de 19 años y goleador del último campeonato boliviano (hizo 44), es la nueva estrella del fútbol de ese país y la esperanza para ampliar el mercado futbolístico local. De paso por la Argentina, el doctor Adhemar Suárez Salas, ex presidente y actual abogado de Oriente Petrolero (equipo en el que jugó Castillo la última temporada y que ahora dirige el argentino Néstor Clausen), se mostró feliz por el pase del goleador, por lo que representa para su club y para todo Bolivia. "No voy a exagerar: este chico es un fenómeno extraordinario", aseguró Suárez Salas, con evidente emoción.

    La cesión del delantero al conjunto mexicano se hizo en 260.000 dólares, con opción de compra (a mediados del 2003) de 2.500.000, una cifra altísima para los valores que se manejan en Bolivia. "Es una muy buena operación, se trata de un goleador nato, que mide 1,78. Técnico, habilidoso, le falta cabecear mejor, aunque tiene condiciones bárbaras de hombre-gol", definió el boliviano. "La transferencia es importante, además, porque el fútbol nacional no tiene el marketing de plazas como la argentina, la uruguaya o la brasileña", agregó.

    Según Suárez Salas, Castillo "es de la categoría de Erwin Sánchez o el Diablo Etcheverry", dos de las grandes estrellas que dio el fútbol de ese país. La cesión del delantero —surgido de la Academia Tahuichi Aguilera— a los Tecos se dio después de varios meses de negociaciones y de unas cuantas ofertas importantes (del Valladolid, Chievo Verona, Perugia, entre otros). "Ahora, espero que Castillo no se maree por la presión", cerró el dirigente.
     
  12. NACIONAL

    NACIONAL New Member

    Dec 31, 2001
    Medellin, Colombia
    todas las veces que veo o escucho prensa mexicana siempre escucho "este chico es un fenomeno" y no resulta sino que es igualito a los demas....

    la prensa mexicana es muy amarillista
     
  13. Smooth Operator

    Smooth Operator New Member

    Nov 8, 2001
    Nacional

    Que amargo que eres. En Mexico no se usa la palabra "Fenomeno" se usa mas en Sur America. El reportage es de el diaro Argentino OLE y las declaraciones son de el ex presidente del Oriente Pretolero. Nada de Mexicanos Boludo..

    Parece que José Alfredo Castillo no jugara en Tecos. Se quedara en Mexico pero sera prestado a otro Club. Me gustaria que terminara en Atlas..
     
  14. thurd

    thurd New Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Melrose, MA
    ehhh i wish i took spanish in high school instead o french. maybe id have a clue of whats goin on all the time
     
  15. dale_wilster

    dale_wilster Member

    Jul 4, 2001
    Cochabamba, Bolivia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    i am hoping castillo will continue to grow as a player. i was able to see a recap of all his 40+ goals from a season ago in the bolivian league..many of the goals were "poacher" goals and he did not create that many chances for himself..yes, he is our biggest hope and a lot better than the likes of roger suarez and coimbra, cardenas (a lot lot better than cardenas) and he is our hope to pull out the home qualifier wins in la paz..if only erwin sanchez gave a $hit about the national team...
     
  16. NACIONAL

    NACIONAL New Member

    Dec 31, 2001
    Medellin, Colombia
    Re: Nacional




    Amargo??? sheesh....

    En Colombia no la oigo...l... Vivi en Bolivia 2 años y no la escucho comunmente, tengo amigos ecuatorianos y no les oigo decir eso......

    y crees que me importa??? no podes decir nada mas ofensivo que boludo???... ademas es obvio que el boliviano tenia que decir eso, es el que tiene que vender el jugador para ganar plata!! [/B][/QUOTE]

    Lo que me da rabia es que ustedes creen que los mejores jugadores estan jugando en mexico... ademas ustedes se creen mil veces mejores que los estados unidos... y ultimamente les estan dando por detras...
     
  17. 1MADDOG

    1MADDOG New Member

    Aug 15, 2000
    DC
    Castillo would not settle in for PSV and a french team because of low offers. He also stated Europe or no where.

    If it werent for the economical problems in Argentina, most likely he would have agreed to have played there. I dont know; sure beats mexico.
     
  18. NACIONAL

    NACIONAL New Member

    Dec 31, 2001
    Medellin, Colombia

    but of course!!!!
     
  19. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    The kid is eighteen and he's scored more goals in his first year as a starter then any other Bolivian. Not to mention he's still the highest goal scorer this season also.
     
  20. 1MADDOG

    1MADDOG New Member

    Aug 15, 2000
    DC
    OK so Castillo is a sure thing in the national team, wonderful.

    I was about to start talking about Castillo again but realized this post was for MLS Bolivian players. I guess all that could be said was said about the 3 Bolivians in MLS.
     
  21. dale_wilster

    dale_wilster Member

    Jul 4, 2001
    Cochabamba, Bolivia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    other bolivians in mls history:

    juan berthy suarez got cut from DC United in the first year.

    "gato" fernandez played for the revolution at one time.

    mauricio ramos played well for the defunct mutiny.

    anyone else???
     
  22. italchacao

    italchacao New Member

    Mar 18, 2002
    Austin TX
    I always thought Fernandez was a waste of money, MLS has too many good goalkeepers.
     
  23. 1MADDOG

    1MADDOG New Member

    Aug 15, 2000
    DC
    Gato is a wierd. He saves difficult balls, but lets in the easy ones. Not a consistant goal keeper, unfortunately for BOlivia, he is the best youth keeper we have.
     
  24. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    que pasa bolivianos?

    se les olvido uno- muy peludo qu- que paso por el tampa Bay Mutiny


    trivia question?
     
  25. PaulGascoigne

    PaulGascoigne Member

    Feb 5, 2001
    Aotearoa/NZ
    I'd like to be on board w/ Vaca. I know he's really young, and he showed a lot of promise last year. But he seems really rattled these days. The last 2 times I've been to the Cotton Bowl he gave the ball away 15-20 times a game. He's clearly got some nice skills, but can't seem to keep possession. I really hope he snaps out of it, but if not he's going to lose his starting job. He played a little better tonight when switched to the middle, but he's got to really pick it up.
     

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