Bobby Convey

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by sch2383, May 15, 2003.

  1. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    Don't know where to put this...Tottenham Hotspur and DC United played last night, DC won 1-0 off an own goal. Anyways in the Washington Post's article about it, I found this passage interesting:

    here is the link to the whole article
     
  2. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    How does Hoddle know that Convey has a real will to improve? Does he use this phrase for all young players?
     
  3. mik_smith

    mik_smith New Member

    Feb 5, 2001
    London
    My guess is that 5 days ago Hoddle wouldn't have recognized player one from DCU. Then his scouts said: "Keep on eye on these 2 19 year olds -- Convey & Quaranta."

    Later, when asked for an opinion on the meaningless game, he went with the one name he could pronounce.
     
  4. listentobobmarley

    Jan 5, 2001
    Exactly.
     
  5. bofahey

    bofahey Member

    Sep 1, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Perhaps it's because he noticed an improvement in Bobby's game since DC and Tottenham played their match in London last fall.

    Remember, this was the second leg of a home-and-home spread out over six months.
     
  6. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Yeah, I'm sure Hoddle wasn't getting a pie when Convey was tearing it up in London last fall. He knew who to look for last night.
     
  7. banbaseball

    banbaseball Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    East of the Bay
    i don't actually remember convey making the field to play at white heart lane. could be mistaken though.
     
  8. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    That's my impression too. Even if he had been in that match, I doubt it very much that Hoddle would have remembered him.
     
  9. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Quaranta is 18

    Is it so hard to believe that an EPL coach may be aware of a 19 year old player who;

    Is in his 4th professional season
    Played on the 4th place U-17 team with Landon and DMB
    Captained the U-17 team
    Captains the U-20 team
    Is on the U-23 squad
    and has been capped, what, 7 times now

    One might think there would be a problem if Hoddle WASN'T familiar with Convey, given this is the 2nd meeting between Spurs and DCU
     
  10. voros

    voros Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Parts Unknown
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Spurs' site did have a bunch of praise for Convey's play yesterday ("lively and a threat"). If Convey wanted to play well and maybe open an eye or two, it appears he succeeded.

    Again, the work permit is an issue.
     
  11. Short Corner

    Short Corner Member

    Jun 28, 2001
    Yes Convey played in the first DC-Spurs match. He made several spectacular runs. Afterwards, Spurs coaches made statements almost identical to the quotes given above.

    Maybe Hoddle did indeed forget all that. For all I know, he forgets his own name at regular intervals. More likely, this is just another example of posters speculating on things they know nothing whatever about, and judging others by their own limitations.
     
  12. Bird

    Bird Member

    Sep 16, 2000
    San Mateo, California
    Not to confuse the debate with the facts, but Convey started for DCU in the match at WHL and went the full 90. Many United fans thought that Convey was one of the better players on the field that day. Also, according to DC staff and London papers, he was singled out by the Spurs coaches for his play and potential. This is what D.C. Assistant Coach John Trask said after the game:

     
  13. flanoverseas

    flanoverseas New Member

    Mar 2, 2002
    Xandria
    This sums it up good enough for me.
     
  14. mattgabe

    mattgabe Member

    Sep 20, 2000
    Blacksburg, VA
    Having been @ WHL when DCU were there, I can vouch for Convey being there and also being one of the best players on the field. Spurs have a lot of young talent on the wing (Davies and Etherington spring to mind) so I'd doubt if Convey would go there. Then again, he could play in the middle where Spurs need A LOT of help.

    WP might be a problem but maybe not if he plays in the rest of the friendlies and in the Confed Cup.
     
  15. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Hoddle and his scouts look at tons of players every year. If it was your job to find young, relatively affordable, talented players for your squad, you're going to remember anyone who piques your interest even a little bit. You might even take notes.

    For Hoddle to fail to put thought into evalutating every single player on the field during a friendly would make it a complete waste of time. I'm sure he and his staff has much more detailed thoughts on Convey and everyone else on the field than the complimentary comments he made to a reporter.

    If its your job to find players, you're paying even more attention than internet message board writers when you're watching a game.
     
  16. btousley

    btousley New Member

    Jul 12, 1999
    well he will be playing in friendlies and the Confed Cup (BA has already said so) ....

    but regardless - the MOTM this time was Convey - and 19 years old or not - Hoddle saw him rip through his midfield and defense time and time again - how can you not notice? regardless if the last time out he scored or was attracting splinters. Regardless of Davies and Etherington - Convey certainly got their attention - maybe Davies and Etherington could play elsewhere.
     
  17. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    Can I use this thread to back up the thread I started about Convey when MLS coaches, GMs and Scouts decided to forget about him? Isn't there a button that let's you do that? If there isn't shouldn't there be one?
     
  18. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    Playing in the middle is Convey's natural position, its where he plays for the U20s.
     
  19. FormerGermanGuy

    Mar 1, 2001
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey, you take that back! That doesn't happen on Bigsoccer! :)
     
  20. mik_smith

    mik_smith New Member

    Feb 5, 2001
    London
    It's a joke. Lighten up. Some folks found it funny b/c there are elements of truth to it:

    1) Hoddle's only interest in DCU is as a potential source of young players with an upside who might be had on the cheap. I forgot the earlier friendly at WHL -- but I'm sure the scouts sat down with Glenn before the game and went over the players to watch. And I'd bet Messrs. Convey and Quaranta were top of the list.

    2) I've got no reason to think he can't really pronounce "Quaranta" or remember El Diablo's given name, but Hoddle's certainly shown he's not the brightest bulb. Bad trait + exageration = humor. SNL's been doing if for 25+ years now.

    Does someone want to start a debate on how smart a manager Hoddle is? Or have I insulted DCU, MLS, and the whole United States of America by implying Hoddle doesn't know or care who Mike Petke is?
     
  21. lasoccervegas2002

    Jul 7, 2002
    this planet

    they taped it during their first meeting in England and they reviewed the tape before they came here
     
  22. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Hey, Hod may not know how to pronounce santino's name, but in a past life...
    Before the injury, Convey looked the real deal. I haven't seen enough of him since, but it sounds as if he might be back. That's great, because we need him for the nats in the coming years.
     
  23. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    simply brilliant sir - and besides, isnt it common knowledge that hoddle plays as D.C. on FIFA 2003?
     

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