News: Bloomberg: In Soccer, America's Team Is European

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  1. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In Soccer, America's Team Is European
    Bloomberg
    Eurosnobery to the extreme ...
    Is this guy living under a rock.
    There's more..
    Coming around with a stupid idea..
     
  2. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Everyone knows America's team is Mexican.
     
  3. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And USA beat Mexico in their home.
     
  4. vevo5

    vevo5 Member

    Nov 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which leagues have the best TV ratings in the USA?

    Mexican League?
    EPL?
    MLS?
     
  5. IndyMac

    IndyMac Member

    Nov 2, 2008
    Evansville, Indiana
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This us just some writer who knows next to nothing about soccer in the US looking to capitalize on soccer being in news recently along with a slow sports calendar until football starts, at which point he won't give soccer a second thought.
     
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  6. krudmonk

    krudmonk Member+

    Mar 7, 2007
    S.J. Sonora
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Everyone just getting into soccer wants to look like they're not just getting into it. Playing the "Europe is better" card is always tactic #1.
     
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  7. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Absolutely. It's not that big a leap from "I'm too good for soccer" to "I'm too good for MLS" after it becomes obvious that the sport won't just go away.

    This is why I laugh, hard, at those who love to proclaim that Eurosnobs are Eurosnobs because they are discriminating connoisseurs of a "higher quality of play." For most of them, if you put Barcelona in Columbus Crew shirts and vice versa, they wouldn't know the difference. They watch MLS games the same way that soccer bashers watch any games, picking out excuses to run it down and ignoring everything else, and then pretending that "hey, I tried," and then clinging to their prejudices.
     
  8. Cactus Hibs

    Cactus Hibs Member

    May 11, 2006
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Hibernian FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kinda displays the extent of his "insider" knowledge of soccer culture, doesn't it?

    And I love that they misspelled "Aresenal" in the illustration.

    Name-check Eden Hazard all you want, friend...your ignorance shines through regardless.
     
  9. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They don't wear scarves in Europe!
     
  10. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FMF, by a mile (last I checked)
     
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  11. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok, if you used West Ham or Deportivo La Corruña would be an ok analogy, but Barcelona, really? That went too far.

    Anyone that can't tell the Difference between Barcelona and 99% of all other teams, does not know about soccer, be them "Eurosnobs" or "MLSsnobs".
     
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  12. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Please tell me that's meant as a joke.
     
  13. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Europe as in England they do.

    We really need to come up with a better term since for most people in BigSoccer Europe = England.
     
  14. Mucky

    Mucky Member+

    Mar 30, 2009
    Manchester England
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    This article doesn't read like a "eurosnob" article at all to me, if anything it is anti "eurosnob".
    The facts it outlines, such as the US not producing a global mega star or MLS playing catch up to EPL TV ratings, may not be that pertinent to the central argument that more Americans need to support and invest in MLS rather than Euro leagues for it to continue to grow and eventually challenge these leagues but I doubt any of you would argue with the premise itself.

    That maybe already happening to a larger degree than what the author gives credit for so criticism along those lines might be more valid but this extract is surely atypical of what a eurosnobs might write?

    "I’m saying it should celebrate what it has already accomplished as a young soccer nation -- not only assembling a women’s team that rules the sport, but also a men’s team that came out of nowhere to qualify for the World Cup in 1990 and hasn’t missed one since. I’m saying we should stop whining about the MLS’s “inferior product,” about all of the talented U.S. players fleeing to Europe for their paydays. I’m saying let’s cut it with the “Lads Night Out” and the faux-European team names like Real Salt Lake and FC Dallas.
    And to my fellow soccer dads: How about taking a pass on this year’s home Arsenal jersey, and spending that $84.99 on your local MLS team instead? More money will flow into the league, and before you know it, we will have created an authentic, powerful U.S. soccer culture, something we are never going to do relying on aging ex-Premier League stars and ersatz Euro touches"




    Slightly out of touch with US soccer culture perhaps but pro MLS none the less.
     
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  15. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    England isn't the only place.
     
  16. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Okay, I'll give you that. Let's change it to Man United, then.
     
  17. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, while I agree with the underlying point the top teams (Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man U, Chelsea, Bayern Munich, etc.) are clearly better than everyone else, even to a general novice soccer watcher.

    90% of soccer fans in America couldn't tell the difference between Columbus-Toronto, Blackburn-Ipswich, and Sydney-Melbourne if they all played in monochrome kits at a neutral stadium with no fans though.
     
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  18. radmonkey

    radmonkey Member

    Oct 27, 2007
    Yes and it will surely win more farms for the NT. I don't think it's gonna stop all the Club America from watching Club America and etc.

    When I lived in Mexico for a bit, I still watched all the MLS games I could watch...I didn't just stop following MLS because I lived there. Actually, since that was 2007 I saw more coverage in MLS in that year, than I had seen of MLS in the US since Adu joined the league. LOL.
     
  19. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How about Columbus-Toronto and say Minnesota-San Antonio?

    Would the 90% tell the difference?
     
  20. radmonkey

    radmonkey Member

    Oct 27, 2007
    Or Liverpool/Fulham/Everton.

    I really think they wouldn't be able to spot the difference. I wish was a millionaire and could play this prank on people.
     
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  21. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably not.
     
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  22. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sounds like those new Wal-mart commercials.
     
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  23. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
    Home
    This. He sounds like an average newbie BS poster who wants to be a fan of MLS.

    The complaint I would tack on is that he wants to create "an authentic, powerful U.S. soccer culture" without realizing that one, albeit nascent, already exists.
     
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  24. SYoshonis

    SYoshonis Member+

    Jun 8, 2000
    Lafayette, Louisiana
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Absolutely.
     
  25. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't explain my comments, you're just going to have to learn to think for yourself...
     

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