Blatter on naturalized Brazilians

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  1. Andy TAUS

    Andy TAUS Member

    Jan 31, 2004
    Sydney, AUS
    IIRC the laws were changed recently by the last government to make the waiting period either 4 or 5 years. This may be different for marrying an Aussie citizen.

    He's still a foreigner until he changes citizenship. AUS allows dual citizenship (which was also changed at the same time).
  2. Paul_NL

    Paul_NL Red Card

    May 18, 2006
    Look up why Colautti can´t play for Israel anymore
  3. girvie

    girvie New Member

    Jan 6, 2008
    He can apply for citizenship in 2010.
  4. Paul_NL

    Paul_NL Red Card

    May 18, 2006
    Australia does not have a special rule for people who can represent Australia?

    Holland and Germany have laws like that and the Turkish FA has adviced the teams to buy players who are not cap tied as they can pick up the Turkish nationality straight away
  5. Andy TAUS

    Andy TAUS Member

    Jan 31, 2004
    Sydney, AUS
    There are many categories for gaining citizenship through naturalization. There isn't (to my knowledge) a way of fast-tracking anyone for sporting reasons.

    The most common fashion is to get a visa that grants you permanent residency (ie to live & work in AUS). After 12 months you can apply for naturalization but we have a waiting period 3 out of the past 4 years before you can become a citizen.

    see more here:
  6. Sagy

    Sagy New Member

    Aug 6, 2004
    So far they are a great deal more credible than you.
    Wrong and Wrong.

    :rolleyes:Because he is injured? Doesn't play well/regularly for his club team?

    He is certainly eligible to play for Israel (as an full Israeli citizen with an Israeli passport) and he is still on the Israeli squad.
  7. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
  8. Gold is the Colour

    Dec 17, 2005
    Perth Australia
    Perth Glory
    Nat'l Team:
    Realistically Reinaldo doesn't stand a chance of making the full Australian side. Maybe an A-League squad if there were a few injuries and no Euro based players coming back. It will however mean that QLD can get another foriegner if Reinaldo gets his citizenshhip.

    I agree with you

    I would make it younger, sy 14-16, perhaps if they are over this age give tham a waiting period after getting their citizenship. say 4 years so they will miss a world cup and thus really want to be a part of the country instead of just choosing to get on the team.
  9. Sagy

    Sagy New Member

    Aug 6, 2004
    Agreed, 4 years of playing in the domestic league (club) of the adopted country should be a requirement (only players that are not cap tied should be able to use this exception).
  10. el_urchinio

    el_urchinio Member

    Jun 6, 2002
    People who keep making a big stink out of this issue do nothing but betray their ignorance of international football and its history. It seems as if 2000 is as far back as they can remember.

    Breaking news: Naturalized players have been a part of international football for more than a hundred years. Since its beginnings, really. It's not new, and it's not a problem. If it was a problem, then why wasn't it dealt with so far? If no other FIFA president has done anything about it, and the sky has neither fallen in, nor has international football become less popular, why does Blatter "have to step in?"

    Really, what makes you people think that the original intention of international football was to ban naturalization?

    Oh, and I won't even get started on Australia. This Reinaldo bloke would be neither the first nor the last player who played for Aussies having moved to the country as an adult. Francis Awaritefe, Milan Ivanovic, Mehmet Durakovic, and a host of British players in the 50s and 60s. Hell, Ivanovic and Durakovic have more than a 100 caps between them. Again, the sky hasn't exactly fallen in.
  11. Paul_NL

    Paul_NL Red Card

    May 18, 2006
    Happy new year
  12. Sagy

    Sagy New Member

    Aug 6, 2004
    Based on the above post by Paul_NL - Paul_NL credibility meet toilet, flash.

    You claimed that "Colautti can´t play for Israel anymore". I proved to you that your statement was false. Instead of being a man and admitting your error, you have the audacity to say that by proving you wrong, your point is made :eek:.

    Shame on you.
  13. Paul_NL

    Paul_NL Red Card

    May 18, 2006
    My point was that you have to be a full citizen, he was not, thats why he couldn´t play

    But thanks again for making my point and I recommend you take a reading class. Thanks
  14. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

    Dec 14, 2005
    Boston, MA, USA
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you've embarrassed yourself enough...

    Since this conversation can't find new traction, let's just be done.

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