From the Independent, reflecting Blair's Messianistic approach, along with Bush, to this entire endeavour... 21 July 2004 Tony Blair, on the eve of his tenth anniversary as leader of the Labour Party, echoed one of the most famous quotations from Lady Thatcher yesterday by telling critics of the war in Iraq to "rejoice". Lady Thatcher told Britain to "Just rejoice... rejoice" when British forces recaptured South Georgia on 25 April 1982. She was under pressurefor allowing the Falkland Islands to be invaded by Argentina. Mr Blair's use of the word "rejoice" - loaded with all the defiance that Lady Thatcher had given it - made Labour backbenchers wince during the Commons debate on the Butler report. "We couldn't believe it when he said that," said one Labour MP. "We shouted 'Thatcher' at him." Mr Blair immediately recognised the gaffe, and quickly added: "Yes - let us be pleased." A former whip, loyal to Mr Blair, said: "Rejoice is a word that we will have to wipe from the dictionary. I was appalled he used it." But the damage was done. Alice Mahon, one of 41 MPs of all parties who staged a token protest vote against the Government on Iraq last night, said: "I don't know how he could say 'rejoice' when thousands of lives have been lost. They never counted the number of Iraqis who died, but how can he say rejoice? It is an insult to those who have died." Alan Simpson, another leftwing Labour MP who campaigned against the war, said: "The only one who will rejoice with Tony Blair is Osama bin Laden." Mr Blair painted a rosy picture of life after Saddam Hussein in Iraq, completely at odds with many eye-witness accounts of the Iraqi people's suffering. Declaring "the blessings from the fall of Saddam are great," Mr Blair spoke of the 35 local elections in Iraq; the doubling of public-sector salaries; and schools and hospitals which were now open. "Removing Saddam was not a war crime. It was an act of liberation for the Iraqi people," he said. "My view is whatever mistakes have been made, rejoice that Iraq can have such a future." He was immediately criticised by opposition MPs. Charles Kennedy, the Liberal Democrat leader said: "He still doesn't get it. He does not know that he has got to show genuine contrition." Tam Dalyell, the Father of the House, called for Mr Blair to resign. Robin Cook, who resigned from the Cabinet over the issue, said the invasion of Iraq had created the conditions in which al-Qa'ida was "thriving". Michael Howard, the Conservative leader, said: "Why is it that for this Prime Minister, sorry seems to be the hardest word?" The Prime Minister's denial that he lied over the war was under fresh scrutiny last night after Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, admitted he knew in September last year that two pieces of intelligence about Saddam's chemical and biological weapons had been withdrawn by MI6. Downing Street insisted that the Prime Minister did not know the intelligence had been withdrawn until the Butler inquiry was under way, but Mr Straw's admission will raise fresh doubts about assurances from No 10. It will also raise questions as to why no minister told the Hutton inquiry, and it will fuel calls for the inquiry by the Foreign Affairs Committee to be reopened today. Admitting mistakes, Mr Blair announced four measures to respond to criticism in the Butler report. There will be an end to "Government by sofa" - in a future crisis, Mr Blair will set up an ad hoc committee of the Cabinet with proper minutes. William Ehrman, the new head of the Joint Intelligence Committee, will be replaced in 2005 with an appointment of "someone beyond influence" by ministers. Senior intelligence officers will review the Butler report's findings and, finally, JIC assessments will be kept separate from the Government's case in any future dossier. CAUSE FOR REJOICING? * British soldiers killed during Iraq war: 60 * British soldiers injured in the conflict: 2,200 * Iraqi soldiers killed: 6,370 (estimate) * Iraqi civilians killed: 13,000 (estimate) * Projected cost of reconstruction: £55bn * UK cost of war: £3.2bn * Annual cost of keeping UK troops in Iraq: £1.5bn * Percentage of Iraqis who would feel safer if US and UK troops left: 55 * Percentage of UK voters who believe Blair lied: 55 * Weapons of mass destruction found: 0 Our leaders are, to put it gently, ********ing retards.
Shame really, US and Britain doing all this hard work, taking out a dictator. But the fact is that Iraq is an uncivilized nation. It needs a dictator. Democracy is a natural progression. The only reason the western world has free democratic society is really based upon it's religions which have moved on with the times, the religions did this to survive but it accidently was the benefit of the respected countries, who embraced the modern world and developed their societies. 97% of Iraqis are muslims, Islamic beliefs is stuck on a time-warp compared to say, the religion of catholics or protestants which have developed and are modern. It means you can change the country for now, but you can never change their beliefs. Iraq is a backward country, it is not prepared for democracy. It would have been better to let them keep Saddam and leave them for a few hundred years for their country to actualy develop. They'd eventually get a democratic society, but by that time we'd have all been contact by Aliens it would take so long. But it wasn't really about getting rid of Iraq, it was about Tony Blair kissing American a$$, and Americans going into Iraq for control of the the oil fields. Why else would US really really want to go into Iraq with so much little intelligence? To become the saviors of Iraqi people? Haha don't me laugh. The British Empire became the biggest empire ever seen because they believed in a free market, but they believed in a free market that applied to them, and them only. It is a foreign policy that worked, and it is what the US trys it's best at doing.
Can someone please help me out with understanding Bloonhead's point in this post and it's relevance in it? Or was it just to ruin this whole thread?