Bitcoin, Blockchain, Battlestar Galactica

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  1. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    To make matters worse, the Winklevi have a shitty cover band. Here they are sucking up Journey in Asbury Park

     
  2. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
  3. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    Too pitchy. That's a no from me, dawg.

    The singer's movement is so wooden his nickname should be Redwood.
     
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  4. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    I know that venue. It's down the street from The Stone Pony. Gets mid level headliners but also apparently The Winklevi.

    Guessing those fans are Jersey shore crypto bros and/or were being paid.
     
  5. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    #905 The Jitty Slitter, Jan 3, 2023
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    Good explainer on the unravelling of Genesis/Gemini

    It is remarkable how many of these 'investment' fiascos simply involved giving all the assets to some guy to lose in 3AC, Luna, FTX etc

     
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  6. chaski

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    Mar 20, 2000
    redacted
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    Reported
     
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  7. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    #907 spejic, Jan 4, 2023
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    This post on the Effective Altruism forum from a few months ago isn't interesting, but the comment section is. There's lots of information about Alameda, FTX, and SBF being provided by insiders. Such as SBF's insane fearlessness of risk.

    One of the comments shatters the myth of the creation of Alameda. There was no Korean arbitrage, and the Japanese one only made a small amount of money that didn't last. It was later spun to bring in investment money. Frankly, there's even doubt that the Japanese arbitrage happened - it difference wasn't big and would need massive trade volume to bring in this kind of money. SBF may just have been ponziing the initial investment money.

     
  8. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    US follows Bahamas in some fake money seizing

    The U.S. Justice Department said in a Delaware bankruptcy court hearing that it had taken custody of $450 million in Robinhood shares from FTX.

    In May 2022, then-CEO Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX cofounder Gary Wang formed a holding company called Emergent to purchase shares in the publicly traded Robinhood platform. In an affidavit filed in December, Bankman-Fried and Wang said they used funds taken in loans totaling $546 million from Alameda Research to buy the shares.

    https://decrypt.co/118444/regulators-seize-millions-ftx-robinhood-shares
     
  9. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

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    San Rafael, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    #909 spejic, Jan 4, 2023
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    2022 numbers are in. And it is estimated that Bitcoin consumed about 161 Terawatt-hours of power in that year, about equal to the nation of Sweden. This is quite a bit up from last year, and is surprising because there were points when mining went noticeably down (after the spring crash, recently because of weather in Texas), mining machines became more efficient, and the number of transactions went down from 2021. There was just so much competition between miners this year.

    Bitcoin counteracted all the CO2 emission reductions by electronic cars. One single transaction consumes about 1,700 kWh. Take a look at your electric bill to figure how many months of power that is for you.
     
  10. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
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    You don't need to prove you are serious to send an email. There is no central authority that decides if you really need to send an email. You just do it. That's why you get 5 bazillion spam messages a day. The designers of Bitcoin didn't want a central authority, so they wanted to make sure you are very serious before trying to modify the blockchain. So you spend crazy power doing stupid math and if you do then you enter a lottery to decide who gets to add the next block of transactions to the ledger. This is "proof of work". You all know this.

    Etherium recently switched to something different. You prove you are serious by locking up some of your ETH (the native coin of the Etherium blockchain). The more you lock up, the greater the chances of you winning the lottery to add the next block. If you are poor you can pool your money with others. This is "proof of stake".

    But there's a slight problem. In the current state of Etherium, you can't unstake your coins. The upgrade to allow this is constantly delayed and there is no estimate on when it will be done. That means a lot of coins are not liquid. And there's a lot of crypto finance based on those staked coins, especially in exchanges who offer high interest rates and liquid alternate coins to customers who join those pools. This could get really messy if there is further pressure on the field (by, say, another major exchange collapsing). Their developers are in a bit of a race here.
     
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  11. The Jitty Slitter

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    The Celsius insolvency reveals how all of this stuff was a ponzi

    We need to deliver our investors insane APR - how shall we do it? Let's lend billions to those other ponzi guys at insane APR! Job done!

     
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  12. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    I dunno. But this sounds all so very...stupid.
     
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  13. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
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    The alchemy of our age.
     
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  14. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
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    Belgium
    I still can’t get why people would invest in unregistered securities at ponzi interest rates
     
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  15. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Let's ask the Madoff victims. :D

    "25% returns every quarter, Jerry. This man is a financial genius I tell ya!" - Banya
     
  16. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    DC United
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    That's because you are in league with THE MAN who is trying to keep people poor.
     
  17. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
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    Is that a Midnight Run reference?
     
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  18. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Like to see where the Winklevi turn next. My guess - essential oils or supplements.
     
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  19. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    Maybe, by accident.
    "Two words, just two words!

    Vaginal.

    Eggs."
     
  20. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

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    San Rafael, CA
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    You have no idea. Neither do I, but I have an inkling. There are hundreds of companies out there doing financial services and services for financial organizations in the crypto space. And I haven't even touched on things like Lightning Network. There is just so much imagination and effort being spent on something with a foundation of air.

    It's not forever. The amount of venture capital going into the space has totally collapsed.
     
  21. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Jul 23, 2004
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    Genesis appears to be close to insolvency.

    Layoffs announced
     
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  22. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Boy will Phil Collins be pissed!
     
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  23. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    It seems like it was always a get rich quick pyramid scheme in a Silicon Valley wrapper. And the Feds did squat to squash it years ago.
     
  24. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    And Peter Gabriel will still just laugh at it all.
     
  25. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

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    San Rafael, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    #925 spejic, Jan 5, 2023
    Last edited: Jan 5, 2023
    The previously mentioned Silvergate bank, the main legitimate connection crypto has to the real world, had their stock drop by almost 50% today. They had $8 billion in withdrawals last year as failing crypto companies took out money to pay creditors. They are in trouble.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/05/sil...to-bank-discloses-massive-q4-withdrawals.html

    That loss is more than all their profits in the last decade combined. It's questioning them as a going concern time. And that's not including the legal trouble.
     

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