Birmingham City Centre being evacuated

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  1. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4668313.stm

    On a Saturday night, the West Midlands police are patrolling Broad Street in the middle of the Birmingham city centre, emptying out bars and sending people home. According to BBC News24, a number of controlled explosions have been carried out around the area following "a credible and serious warning of potential danger".

    The police have termed the announcement a "public declaration of caution", which according to post-9/11 government procedures is language used to announce a major terrorist threat (all of this from the live commentary on News24, which, like all rolling news networks, is liable to spill out any old shit as it becomes available).

    For anyone who's been out on a Saturday night in Birmingham (the UK's second largest city), you will know that no police commander is going to order evacuation unless there's a damn good reason to do so ...
     
  2. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    "controlled explosions"? Is that a typo, Matt? (I hope).
     
  3. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
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    Is that not an American term? It's what we call a procedure by which a suspect package/bag/whatever is blown up. It usually involves a robot or heavily armoured person approaching the package and setting tiny, carefully and specifically shaped bits of plastic explosive that will destroy the package - including any explosive device it may contain - without causing a wider detonation.
     
  4. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    Yikes. Sorry. Yes, it's used here as well (sort of an oxymoron of course :)). In fact, that's what I thought you meant at first, but then I didn't see any mention of it in the linked article, so I thought maybe it was a mistake, thinking optimistically that perhaps you meant to write "controlled evacuations". Here's hoping a) nothing comes of this and/or b) they find something but succeed in stopping it.
     
  5. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
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    Right here:

     
  6. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    Just so I don't look like such an idiot, I think the article has been updated since I first viewed it.
     
  7. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
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    :D Fair enough.
     
  8. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
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    Morning reports suggest 20,000 people were evacuated and the chief of police in Birmingham explained the situation in more detail.

    Like I said last night, it's got to be pretty credible if they're going to mobilise the police to clear 20,000 pissed Brummies out of Broad Street ahead of closing time.
     
  9. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/4665153.stm
     
  10. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
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    Hmmmm. Seems to me that it would require more than a Saturday night prank to make the police evacuate the city centre of England's second city.
     
  11. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
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    Just a procortion by looks of it, of soz for starting the other topic about this, i didn't see this thread :)
     
  12. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
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    If this happened in the United States, the leftists would be screaming that the Bush administration was fabricating a security threat to advance their political agenda. But, that's just because the left is full of kooks and nuts.
     
  13. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
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    No, people with half a brain raise a skeptical eyebrow when the little color coded terror alert is heightened to some new hue WITHOUT any such evacuations or more specific threats cited.
     
  14. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
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    Italy
    I do agree with you that liberals have half a brain.
     
  15. christopher d

    christopher d New Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Weehawken, NJ
    And you were also kind enough to confirm the point his subtext was making.
     
  16. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    Well at least we left aren't narrow minded, backward thinking, un generous, full of bigotry, just look at my sig, that what it says about liberals in the dictionary, conservatives tend to be the oppisite of that

    and your hate towards liberals shows what a right dick you really are, you are a very angry person
     
  17. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
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    Italy
    Thankfully, I can't see your sig. If you're using the dictionary to define liberals and conservatives then you are woefully behind the times.
     
  18. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    It's nothing to do with leftists... any opposition will have a tendency to do that sort of thing. Pretty much the same complaint was made, (along with many others), by right wing opposition parties when troops were called out at Heathrow airport.

    The problem is, of course, that most electorates want entirely conflicting desires satisfied. They want to complain when something DOES happen... and they want to complain when something DOESN'T happen. They want to be secure... but they don't want to be inconvenienced or made to pay even one penny to achieve it.

    The real story about this regarding America, of course, is that things that affect the ability of the US airlines to make money are usually quietly dropped.
     
  19. Colm

    Colm Member

    Aug 17, 2004
    UK
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    during 1992-2000 Republicans were critisizing the Clinton government left right and centre, if a democrat government was in charge and doing this the conservatives would critisize just as badley.
     
  20. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    I'm not sure you're aware of how dishonest the Bush Administration has been. The warnings came out solely to benefit the campaign and had absolutely nothing to do with security.

    Given the bogus warnings and the phony Iraqi nuclear threat, the next President is going to have a much harder time combatting real terror risks.
     

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